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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: The Department still has ownership. It is only control that it is giving away.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: On the redress board, there is a balance due of €898,000. What is that about? Why is that outstanding?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Would it be the norm to have a balance of that kind of money due? Did I catch out the officials?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: On building equipment and the furnishing of primary and post-primary schools, the original figure was €468 million and it ended up at €524 million. The Department was basically putting this down to the summer works scheme. Could Mr. Ó Foghlú state the nature of the summer works scheme and how this budget was determined?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: It is a very good scheme. I welcome it. It does a lot of work in small schools.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Is it normal that the Department would get a Supplementary Estimate during the year? Why would the budget not be anticipated in the beginning and in place from the start? Why is it that the Department of Finance comes up with more money during the year and has more money available, allowing the Department of Education and Skills to get a slice of it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: The summer works scheme is very welcome. It is a great scheme. Under the heading "Severance/Redundancy", I see 255 non-teaching staff and two primary teachers were paid redundancy sums totalling €2,281,664. What circumstances gave rise to these redundancies? What kind of scheme was it? Was it voluntary or compulsory?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: I presume they were outside the natural retirement age so there must have been a reason for the redundancies.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: How were the non-statutory amounts determined?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: There is a total legal cost here of €251,000. What was the general nature of the claims involved? The average compensation awarded was €6,500. Could Mr. Ó Foghlú tell us more about these claims?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: The interesting point is that the average claim was €6,500 but the legal cost per claim was €18,000. That seems extraordinary. Why are legal costs almost three times the average payment? Is there anything the Department can do to reduce legal costs? The average claim is €6,500 yet the average payment to solicitors I presume is €18,000 per claim.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: It sounds very high with an average payment of €6,500 and legal costs of €18,000, which is three times the payment. I suppose that is as good as I am going to get. Is there any way to reduce them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Is this relating basically to accidents in schools?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Do most of these go to court or are they settled out of court?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: There were ten new cases of fraud and suspected fraud and irregularities in 2015. What is the nature of these and how much money do they involve?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: How does the Department penalise schools if they are found to be guilty of fraud?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: Does all the fraud concern numbers of pupils?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: The settlement with the Revenue Commissioners in March amounted to €1,359,358 for the period 2010-2013. Why was the Department not tax compliant in respect of these payments?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: What arrangements are in place to ensure this will not happen again? Is more scrutiny needed? Does the Department need an internal auditor, for example?

Ceisteanna - Questions - Priority Questions: Defence Forces Personnel (29 Mar 2017)

Bobby Aylward: I thank the Ceann Comhairle. I thank Deputy Wallace for raising this matter. I have been talking to the Minister of State about this case for four months. The young man is trying to get back to his grandmother in Callan on compassionate grounds. He is a communications operator. There is a vacancy in Kilkenny for him and the problem lies in transferring him from the navy to the Army but...

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