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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: They are put on a limbo list.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: How many are on the transfer list?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I understand there is total confusion about this among people but perhaps I am wrong. Initially, officials were absolutely crystal clear with me in my previous life. They said it was absolutely right that they were off the waiting list. Since then, I have been told they were all included in the figures. Today, the Department is telling us "No". That is great. That is clear. Mr. John...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Is that not shocking?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Lovely. I thank John Mr. McCarthy. How much is going to HAP? According to the Comptroller and Auditor General's report, €153 million went to HAP in 2017. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: On HAP alone.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: On the rental accommodation scheme alone, it was €143 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am racing through the chapter. It sets out the supports which come to a total of €636 million and which is going straight into the private market. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: The rental accommodation scheme. It is €636 million in total under rental accommodation supports.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Yes. These payments are going directly to the private market where prices are going up and up. Is that not right? Rents are unsustainable. It is impossible. This is the report from the local authority. I am sticking to facts. It is impossible to get private accommodation in Galway, but Government policy is to put more and more money into the private market. Let us take HAP on its own....

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Is that the precise figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: In 2018, it was €277 million. I understood it was €300 million.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What is the projected figure for 2019?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. McCarthy must let me dwell on that figure. I am not good on figures. That is €423 million under HAP alone. What is the figure for the rental accommodation scheme, RAS? I presume it should be going down because people are getting off RAS.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am looking at those figures. I do not need to waste time.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I mean I do not need to waste my time. The figures are there, so what point is Mr. McCarthy making about them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. McCarthy can elaborate on all this. I also spent 19 years as a city councillor. I know all this. I know that RAS will go down as more and more people go into HAP. We know that. Mine is a bigger question around the enormous amount of money going into the private market.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What year was that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Planning and Local Government
(28 Feb 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Coincidentally, just prior to that, in Galway City Council we were told that no more funding was available for public housing. I am very familiar with this. I bore people here by repeating it. Not a single publicly funded house was constructed in Galway from 2010 until last year, when 14 houses were completed, as I understand. Is that not interesting, at a time when money was going into...

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