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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Was it the case that Mr. Breslin was satisfied all along?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: When was Mr. Breslin no longer satisfied?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: So it was very late in the day.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: It is really ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I wish to pick up again on the way the project was constructed. A number of issues arise when there are cost overruns and they are well teased out by expert opinion in Ireland and elsewhere. Poor design that has not been thought out, change orders, administration and how a site is run, etc. all come into it. In terms of the design, what the board did was make a guesstimate on the...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Quinn was responsible for signing off on it and thinking it through with the help of expertise. Is that the case?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Mr. Quinn has specific expertise on the board. He came from the public service and is acutely aware of the finite amount of money available for the hospital project. Would it have gone ahead if it had been twice the original price? Does Mr. Quinn accept that the lack of nailed-down detail was a critical component and that he had a particular responsibility on the board to provide advice on it?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: What did Mr. Quinn do to mitigate the cost, given that it was so novel for a major project in the public service?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: That was without having a detailed design at tender stage.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I actually want to pursue it with Mr. Quinn.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I asked Mr. Quinn a specific question based on his being there at the time. I would like to hear from him on the matter.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: The detailed design was not nailed down. Without it, the board went to tender.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: How could Mr. Quinn be advised by the design team when it did not have the detail? It made a general assessment of the number of rooms in the hospital but without the details in respect of one being a theatre, one being a bedroom, etc.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: It was more of a guesstimate than an estimate.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Does Mr. Quinn place the responsibility on the design team for the project going so far out of kilter in terms of the amount of money that was to be spent?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: That was down to not nailing down the design. I will move on as time is short and Deputy Cullinane has to come in. When an experience has proved to be very different from what was expected, does that make Mr. Breslin cautious about other aspects that would come forward from a board like this, given what the PwC report has said? Would that make him more cautious or even more questioning of...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: There is not a full level of trust. The Secretary General requires additional oversight.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I am not saying that about the individuals. I accept the point.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (Resumed) (16 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Is there particular expertise that is necessary even at this early stage?

Ceisteanna ar Sonraíodh Uain Dóibh - Priority Questions: National Broadband Plan (21 May 2019)

Catherine Murphy: 52. To ask the Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment the number of cost-benefit analyses undertaken before the decision was made to grant preferred bidder status to a consortium regarding the national broadband plan; if the analyses will be published; if the initial investment in the plan by the preferred bidder will be released in one block or in tranches; and if he...

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