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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is there a cost to Coillte, which is a public body?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Obviously, when it is harvested, the ISIF will get money back. Is there a benefit to Coillte or the public purse in any other way out of that, however?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: There are figures available with regard to what is projected in the context of Gresham House. Who will own the carbon credits that will be assessed on each hectare of that land? Carbon credits are worth money.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: There could be, however. Bord na Móna is getting involved in carbon sequestration, for example. That is a good thing. It will be able to sell the benefits of that. It is turning it into a funding stream to the benefit of communities and the State. Who will own the carbon credits in the context of Coillte and Gresham House? It is clear that it will accrue economically. Who will...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I know all that. Coillte needed to get back into the game a decade ago. It is late coming back into it. I am asking a specific question. In the context of Gresham House coming in and purchasing land, the role of Coillte and the benefit or liabilities to the taxpayer, how will this work? Will there be a lien on the public purse? What happens with carbon credits? Anybody who says that...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Overall, that is correct.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is true for all marketplaces.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: There is the value of it. Are we going to meet our targets and commitments? That is the question. Are other countries going to do so? States that do not meet them can buy credits, as can companies. It can change. That is the point I am making. Deputy Verona Murphy wishes to come in.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I would not be an expert on any area of Brexit. However, the general feeling on the ground is that there was enormous anxiety and worry across the transport and farming sectors in respect of food safety and all of that. I acknowledge that the Department seems to have done a good job. It was in uncertain territory. When one is dealing with people who change their minds even after they have...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: What happens in Belfast and Larne in regard to food safety and animal health? How is that panning out? That is always the question. There was an attempt to stop any posts being erected or checks taking place. Staff were ordered away from the ports. All sorts of game-playing was going on. Are there any implications now or is it working satisfactorily?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is there a high level of co-operation there? If we go back to the incidence of foot-and-mouth disease, the 32-county approach saved the country. I remember the outbreak as a child in the late 1960s when we had to put our feet into a bath of water with disinfectant. We have the advantage of being an island and everyone gets the logic of having the checks at the ports, bar anyone who does...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: One of the big consequences is that this State is part of the Single Market and it would put all of that in jeopardy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is good to hear that because obviously with the fact that there is no government in the North we are relying on officials. As there is no political oversight, there is a bit of anxiety around that.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I suppose we could say that Britain's loss is Wexford's gain in terms of Rosslare.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: We have given the issues a good thrash around. I thank the witnesses and staff from the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications and the representative from the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform for their work in preparation for this morning's meeting. The discussion this...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: The public business before us this afternoon is as follows: minutes, accounts and financial statements, correspondence, work programme and any other business. The first item is the minutes of the meeting of 27 April, which have been circulated. Do any members wish to raise any matters relating to the minutes? Are the minutes agreed? Agreed. As usual, the minutes will be published on the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is good to know that the Revenue Commissioners have their accounts in order. Do any members wish to comment on that or speak to it? Can we agree and note the listing of accounts and financial statements? Agreed. As usual, the listing of accounts and statements will be published as part of the minutes. We will move on to correspondence. As previously agreed, items that are not...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: I agree with 95% of what the Deputy said but the 1,666 houses were built by contractors brought in by local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (4 May 2023)

Brian Stanley: The fact is that the pace of delivery is pedestrian.

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