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Written Answers — Department of Health: Outreach Clinics (6 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: 138. To ask the Minister for Health the number of HSE outreach workers or outreach workers funded by the HSE in County Louth; and the areas that are covered by these persons. [10462/18]

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: In the context of what Mr. Gill has just said, it might be useful if one of the union representatives clarified what Appendix 1 of the 2009 document is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: I was a bit late arriving so I missed the correspondence and offer my apologies for that. I am deeply disappointed but not surprised by the Minister's correspondence. I believe he has let his entire Department down because this is a very serious issue. He said it would be inappropriate to attend but that is a nonsensical statement. The pensions are on a statutory footing and are on foot...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: A week's notice did not help that. We decided this-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: -----but apart from that, the Minister has said that he did not think it would be appropriate for him to be here. That is a ridiculous statement to make, given that the Minister is in charge, the pensions are on a statutory footing and he has a legal obligation to ensure they are upheld. Mr. Dermot O'Leary referred to the 16,000 people who will be dependent on CIÉ pension schemes. Any...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: I want to clarify a point about the 2009 document and the particular issue that we are discussing, of which Mr. Gill is unaware. Is Mr. Carlyle aware of the reference in that document?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Has Mr. Carlyle read it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Has he read the 2009 document? I understand that there would be volumes of documents.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Is Mr. Carlyle familiar with the 2009 document?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Even regarding the position paper, would CIÉ not have engaged with the unions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Was the Minister made aware of them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Normally, a position paper provides the basis for discussions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Position papers are normally options to be considered. We know the board did not give the trade unions the options to be considered. Did it inform the Minister of the options to be considered?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: What options were provided to the trade unions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Will Mr. Carlyle confirm that the then Minister was never given sight of the options in that position paper?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Will Mr. Gill confirm if the options in the position paper were shown to the then Minister?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Given that there has been little or no consultation with the trade unions up to now, is Mr. Gill saying future engagements will only be through the WRC?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: Will he give a commitment today that the unions will be at the table?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: I did not use the word “consultation”. I used the word “engagement”. I see them as two different matters. Consultation involves putting options. Engagement involves discussing and coming to an agreement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: CIÉ Group Pensions: Discussion (7 Mar 2018)

Imelda Munster: I am not getting a straight answer on this. It is quite frustrating. Is the only way CIÉ will engage with the unions through the WRC? Given the bad feeling that has come to pass over the lack of engagement, will Mr. Gill give a commitment today to engage with the trade unions outside of the WRC?

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