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Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: I will ask him.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: The deputy director said the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions had drafted information booklets in plain English. I ask him to make these available to the members.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Before leaving the issue and on the same lines, the Director of Public Prosecutions brings cases for Departments. We have had a number of individuals in here who have been taken to court by Departments and pursued over a long period only for the case to be dropped. In some cases, we have been told that the individual business was damaged or ruined by the long process before the case was...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: No, the people are victims because the State accused them of something, pulling them through court appearances, with some of them being a significant number of court appearances, only for the proceedings by the Director of Public Prosecutions not to go ahead.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: I wish to ask a question that I put to officials from the Department of Justice and Equality last week relating to a note I received. I want to establish the cost of this type of thing and how often it happens. This was from an individual who had been summonsed as a prosecution witness in a multiple larceny and drugs case that required a special sitting of the Circuit Court. Present was a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: That type of thing would be unusual?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: It would not want to happen too often. I imagine there are fairly serious costs associated with having all those individuals there. I do not know where this question falls. If someone wins a case and is awarded a considerable amount of money - in the millions of euro - and that money is paid by the insurance company and held by the President of the High Court, it is not ward of court.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: A child was involved in an accident. The child is now 18. I am interested because €5 million was awarded in that case back in 2012. The sum is being held by the President of the High Court. The individual concerned, the child, and the parents have not received the benefit of that award. The €5 million is held without having been invested. It cost the parents €6,000...

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: I am just asking because the parents do not want to go into this ward of court scenario; they are suggesting a trust. It is for the benefit of the child and presumably the parents are looking after the child. Who is in charge there? Is it the president of the High Court?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: If Mr. O'Daly could make the process easier, it might help me understand the issues here. It is odd to say the least. I would like to be reassured on it and maybe get the facts beyond that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Is the €1.9 million that goes to the Law Reform Commission for one year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: How is that accounted for? Does the commission make an application for a specific purpose or is it just-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it subject to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: No. In preparation, say, for next year-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Has the commission informed the Office of the Attorney General with regard to how much it is likely to need?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it generally under the same headings?

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: It has an ongoing operation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: In her opening statement, I think Ms Creedon referred to costs in the Office of the Chief State Solicitor increasing and being obliged to make a pitch to the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes, and Ms Creedon indicated that her office was seeking a supplementary amount.

Public Accounts Committee: 2014 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Vote 3: Office of the Attorney General
Vote 5: Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions
Vote 6: Office of the Chief State Solicitor
(12 Nov 2015)

John McGuinness: What amount is her office seeking in that regard?

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