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Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: The Minister of State indicated that he expects costs to decrease. Section 12 provides for borrowing by the board and the subsidiary. The estimated cost of installing the meters varies from €350 million to €1.2 billion, to be borrowed from the National Pensions Reserve Fund. The most commonly quoted figure is €500 million. That money will have to be paid back in...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: There will not be a whole lot left over.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: I think it is €7 million.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: People have had their gas and electricity turned off in recent years and have been left without both in some cases. The concern here relates to when a household cannot afford to pay the bill. We do not need to go over the matter but we know there are people out there who are absolutely crucified-----

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: I have heard two different answers to this question. The Taoiseach indicated in the Dáil last year, if I heard him correctly, that water would be turned off. Will water be turned off completely if a household cannot pay, rather than refuses to pay, regardless of the circumstances of that household? Will it have no supply? That is a key issue that is not just environmental. It is a...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: Has my amendment been ruled out of order?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: It was not listed as being ruled out of order.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: On section 18, the point has been about water loss. I would not want water lost between the meter outside my house and the tap at the kitchen sink. There is no evidence to show that this is happening. If it is happening it will show up very quickly in the household. During my time as a public representative I have only come across a few houses where that has happened. It becomes evident...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: Who carried out the survey?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: I would question those findings. That is not what the engineers say.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: I oppose this section.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: I move amendment No. 10: In page 12, between lines 27 and 28, to insert the following subsection: “(4) (a) This section shall not be commenced until such point as the Social Inclusion Division of the Department of Social Protection have carried out a poverty impact analysis study. (b) Such a study will have regard to--(i) whether the impact of the imposition of charges referred to in...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: Section 25 deals with the removal of the prohibition on charging in previous legislation. That is the concern. We are turning a corner here. After a long campaign domestic water charges were abolished in the early 1990s on the basis that the charge for them was already incorporated in existing taxation. Nothing has changed since then. In fact, there have been many new methods of taxation...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: I will be opposing that.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: Can I speak on it?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: The amendment is to allow exemptions in the event of charges being brought in. It is to protect low income families. That is all I will say on it because I know the Chairman is-----

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: I move amendment No. 12: In page 13, before section 27, to insert the following new section: “27.--Section 12 of the Local Government (Financial Provisions) Act 1997 is amended by the insertion of a new subsection (3):“(3) Section 4 of the Local Government (Financial Provisions) (No. 2) Act 1983, is hereby amended by the substitution of the following subsection for subsection...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Water Services Bill 2013: Committee Stage (27 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: We are seeking to change section 27 to make it fairer for people, particularly those who are disabled or on supplementary benefit, jobseeker's allowance or farm assist, and disabled people who lost money today under the mobility allowance. It is to allow those groups some relief in this matter because they will not be able to pay this on top of the other charges they must pay. Last year,...

Electoral (Amendment) (Dáil Constituencies) Bill 2012: Report and Final Stages (28 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: I also support the amendment from Deputy Ó Cuív. Mayo should be included in the name. Despite the population increase of 8.2%, it is the first time we have had a predetermined outcome in terms of the number of Deputies. If one looks at the new electoral map, one can see that parts of counties have been sawn off and other parts rammed together. The terms of reference of the...

Electoral (Amendment) (Dáil Constituencies) Bill 2012: Report and Final Stages (28 Feb 2013)

Brian Stanley: There is no logic to it. It takes in two local electoral areas which means two engineering divisions of Kildare County Council. It will mean having to deal with two local area engineers and two separate systems of administration of the county council. I know the Minister will make smart remarks in reply. This House needs to look at what is being proposed with regard to local government....

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