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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: I have a real problem with that answer. Mr. Harris referred to a draft interim report but we thought we were considering an interim report. The Policing Authority may have been under the impression it was scrutinising an interim report. However, Mr. Harris has confirmed it received a four-page letter, as did the committee, which contains certain figures. I asked Mr. Harris the length of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: That sounds logical, but-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: That is a rational explanation. However, it does not get away from the fact that the public body charged with oversight of An Garda Síochána was not in possession of an interim report prior to the meeting. Rather, it received a four-page letter to scrutinise. The analysis of and background to the matter is currently in draft form although the issue was flagged in 2014 and the the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: At the same time, in another context, a drip feed is not helpful. If so much time was spent on getting the figures right, I would have believed the written report to back it up would also have been signed off. The Commissioner told us he needs to complete the disciplinary process to give the final report but he does not have the interim report because it is in draft form now. A lot of this...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: How many people have been sanctioned? What is their rank?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: That would be great. Is the breakdown by rank? Are we assuming this is all at Garda level?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: Where there is a higher number of senior officers in a particular region, perhaps related to miseducation of individuals under a divisional officer, who is overseeing the entire process? If there is a role at divisional officer level, who is taking responsibility for it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: Would Mr. Harris expect all of that to be done within the next six months?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: And we will get some of that as it comes up.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: On the question Deputy Ó Laoghaire asked, the authority has identified that some of the problems with the youth diversion programme could have been replicated in the adult system. It is unique in some ways but I was not clear on what Mr. Harris said. He seemed to say this has been raised but that PULSE has sorted it. Alternatively, did he say the Garda Professional Standards Unit,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: Is the GPSU looking at this?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: Could I ask a few other questions on unrelated issues or will I wait until I contribute again?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: The Chairman will not hold it against me when I come back in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: I was going to raise some points on ICT and such matters because some of the changes to PULSE have been given as assurance as to why we should have confidence now. The last time the Commissioner was here, he stated in response to Deputy O'Callaghan that IT was the biggest problem that the organisation faces. Particularly in the context of the amount being spent on the maintenance of PULSE,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: I would put it slightly differently. Even in some of the examples the Commissioner has given, there is a massive black hole that will never be filled. It is almost like a self-creating, lucrative maintenance project for certain private outfitters. He mentioned the rostering duty management system but he told the Policing Authority that was an off the shelf system. Accenture was not...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: That would be great. In particular, I have difficulty with the idea of paying Vantage Resources between €200,000 and €300,000 a month for PULSE maintenance - my God. On civilianisation, I know the Commissioner is going to tell me that, at last, the Garda has fulfilled what the Garda Inspectorate has asked for in moving the Garda National Technical Bureau to Forensic Science...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: Is the Commissioner confirming that scene investigation is going to be handed over as well?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: I have to correct the Commissioner on that. What is being said is that forensic examination will be done by the scientists but scene investigation will continue to be done by gardaí. The problem is gardaí do not have the expertise in serious crimes. It could be that the local garda who goes out to deal with a burglary will have to do the scene investigation, and that is then...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Interim Report on Review of Youth Referrals: An Garda Síochána (13 Feb 2019)

Clare Daly: I do not think this is appropriate.

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