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Seanad: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Gender Pay Gap Information) Bill 2017: Second Stage (24 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: The Senator is sharing time with him.

Seanad: Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Gender Pay Gap Information) Bill 2017: Second Stage (24 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: When is it proposed to take Committee Stage?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: There is obviously a future after Leinster House. I am sorry I had to step out for a little while but I was listening to the debate. I have a couple of points. Have the Revenue Commissioners examined the relationship that other EU countries have with third parties, particularly on the eastern European side, for example, Hungary or Poland? I refer to the countries that have borders...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: They also have freedom of movement of people and so forth.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: I can see that. It is obvious from Michel Barnier that one cannot be in as good a position after one leaves as when one stays. We can all understand that. If one is part of the system one is part of the system but if one wishes to walk away and take whatever advantages one perceives from leaving, one equally cannot benefit from all the advantages of being part of it. The witness spoke...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: It appears at this stage that the UK is seeking a harder exit - leaving the customs union, getting rid of free movement of people and so forth. There is a significant contradiction in what it is saying in terms of wanting to maintain the common travel area and free movement on the island of Ireland while simultaneously saying it wants a hard Brexit. What have we heard from the UK? It is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: However, if there are 200 or 300 points on the 499 km to cross how will the Revenue Commissioners, as a customs authority, ensure that the integrity of the EU is maintained with regard to a third party country while simultaneously allowing people to go back and forth, buy their dresses as Senator Conway-Walsh mentioned and so forth? How can they do both?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: Will somebody who gets on a train in Dublin still be able to travel to Belfast without checks somewhere along the way?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: Okay. It is really about the trade and goods rather than the people.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (25 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: I wish the witnesses the best with it. I thank them for their opening statements and their interaction with the committee.

Seanad: Mid-term Capital Review and Public Service Pay Commission Report: Statements (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Minister for coming to the House at this, no doubt, busy time in his schedule. It will be a busy couple of days in the life of his party. As the Minister alluded to, we are talking about two different, but interrelated, topics this afternoon: the mid-term capital review and the report of the Public Service Pay Commission. The capital plan was announced with significant fanfare...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. Lardner. I now call Mr. Marc Coleman to make his opening remarks.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: If Dr. Regan has a phone beside him, he might move it because it affects the microphones.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: I thank all of the delegates for their detailed presentations. The committee has already considered the issue of the common consolidated corporate tax base, CCCTB, and put a recent opinion to the European Union in December 2016, utilising the powers of national parliaments under the Lisbon treaty.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: The Deputy can go ahead because we will extend this session.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the witnesses for their opening statements and interactions with members. We look forward to hearing from them again at a future date in regard to this and, perhaps, other matters. I propose that we suspend now for a few minutes to allow the witnesses to withdraw and our next witnesses to take their seats.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: We are dealing with No. 6, session B on Brexit matters relating to financial services, resumed. We are joined by Mr. Ed Sibley, director of credit institutions, Mr. Gerry Cross, director of policy and risk, and Mr. John Flynn, head of Irish economic analysis, from Central Bank of Ireland. I welcome Mr. Sibley, Mr. Cross and Mr. Flynn to the meeting. Before we hear from the witnesses I must...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. Sibley. A number of members have indicated that they would like to ask questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Brexit - Recent Developments and Future Negotiations: Discussion (Resumed) (30 May 2017)

Gerry Horkan: The issue of the lengthy evaluation process for equivalence and determinations arose. Do the delegates see it as a particular concern in the context of Brexit?

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