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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I wish to confirm with the Comptroller and Auditor General that the total amount in claims is that €646 million. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Then does the Comptroller and Auditor General see the ones determined by the employer's representative?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: The board?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is the figure. I have seen this throughout with these claims. As a percentage, it is small.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I note 1,081 claims have gone into that now, amounting to €336 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: When they are before the committee in the near future, we can go through it with them. The claims are an area that show the potential. They are significant in number and in the amount being claimed. The awards of them, relative to the claims, have been fairly low to date. That has been the pattern.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Absolutely.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Six to nine months, I heard them say on one occasion here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: It will be early 2025.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay. The last correspondence item is No. R1767. This is from Ms Carol Boate, Regulator of the National Lottery, dated 28 February 2023. It provides information on the National Lottery Act 2013 and the national lottery licence. It is proposed to note and publish this item of correspondence. Is that agreed? Agreed. Deputy Munster flagged this and I suggest that we deal with. The...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I would hope that there will be cost savings.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Could I make a suggestion? There is a lot in the report and I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and the staff in the office for putting it together. It is very clear and very easy to read and work with. I am finding it a great aid in trying to get my head around the issues from that period. There is a plan in place to deal with waiting list issues that has funding of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is life and death.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: There is a NTPF unit-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----or office. I do not know what it is called. Cross-Border treatment comes under the fund for foreign travel. Many go to Spain but the cross-Border unit is the same. It fits under that same umbrella.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: That is correct.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Treatment is given here in private hospitals under the NTPF but patients have to wait in the queue. Point taken. We need to watch it. The lesson from different occasions when the HSE was in, and probably in the first year or two of this Dáil term, is we tried to deal with many issues-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----and it is a big beast. It is multifaceted and you can go all over the place and find yourself in all kinds of places. We need to be specific. If waiting lists, the NTPF and the cross-Border aspect are the one piece, we should deal with them as one piece, in addition to the ventilators issue, on the same day and nothing else. How does that sound?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: Yes. There has now been an announcement of a new fund. With the creative points members all have, they will know how to deal with the issue and what lessons have been learned. We can deal with that in the context of the new fund.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (9 Mar 2023)

Brian Stanley: I will make a suggestion. We have An Bord Pleanála on our list, whose representatives will be in on 27 April. The schedule is done up to then. The week before that, Central Bank representatives will appear. We have flagged a number of other matters. Do members wish to try to get in the Department of Health issues? When we come back after St. Patrick's Day, it would be great if we...

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