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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Which side will Deputy Kelly be sitting on during that meeting - that side or this side?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is the relationship, if any, between the Comptroller and Auditor General and the people responsible for auditing local authorities?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. McCarthy saying that outside the Department, which is the main source of funding for local authorities, there is no independent audit function?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I said outside of the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is it called?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: On the basis that the commission is appointed by the Minister, it must come within our remit. We can call the commission before us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Comptroller and Auditor General has told me that the commission is appointed by the Minister and that costs are covered by the Department. He can see where I am going. The commission falls within our remit. Am I stretching things?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: In other words, the Secretary General.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Would he be responsible for answering on behalf of the commission before this committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will bear that information in mind. We have an in as far as the commission is concerned but not when it comes to the local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: For the immediate next meeting we will invite the Department in here to deal with the progress made under the land aggregation scheme, which has a specific chapter, and central Government funding of local authorities. We will tell the Secretary General that he will be asked about the commission that oversees the audit of local authorities.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is good. From that point of view, the Secretary General will be ready to deal with the topic and we will take matters from there. Next week we will try to finalise a work programme for the coming month. The next item on the agenda is any other business. I do not think there is any such business.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand that the Deputy must leave.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I propose that, before inviting the witnesses in to deal with the guardian ad litemreport, we go into private session in order to discuss where matters stand regarding the draft report on Project Eagle. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Today we are dealing with the Comptroller and Auditor general report 2015, chapter 11, which deals with the guardian ad litemservice. We are joined by representatives of the Department of Children and Youth Affairs and Tusla. Specifically, from the Department we are joined by Dr. Fergal Lynch, Secretary General; Ms Éimear Fisher, assistant secretary; Ms Lara Hynes, principal officer;...

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Comptroller and Auditor General is referring to page 133.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: The figures should be reversed.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Where is that?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I thank the Comptroller and Auditor General. I invite the Secretary General of the Department of Children and Youth Affairs, Dr. Fergal Lynch, to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I thank the witness for a concise opening statement. At this stage, I invite Deputy Josepha Madigan to begin. She has 20 minutes.

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