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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Does Mr. Pollock believe that rent of €353,000 is justified? How many persons are using the building for which that rent is paid?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I understand that but this is the board's portion of the rent.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: No, it is €353,616 of taxpayers' money.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I know what the position is in Dublin and all of that. When we add that figure to the figure for communications, what figure do we get?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: We have, therefore, figures of €353,000 and €232,000. How much is that?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That figure presumably arises every year. Did the cost of communications increase in 2018?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is fine.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I will first ask some practical questions on the accounts. I wish to pick up on something Deputy Cullinane said about conflicts of interest. Is it correct that the HSE explored with PwC whether there was a conflict of interest, and it satisfied itself that there was no conflict?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Has PwC never acted for BAM?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Has PwC acted for BAM in the past?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: It may be relevant.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am particularly asking whether its paths crossed with BAM.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Is it not relevant information when tendering a consultancy contract?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I did not table that parliamentary question. It must have been tabled by another Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I am interested in what measures are in place to ensure there is no conflict of interest. I do not want to discuss PwC at all and I do not care whether a conflict of interest is in its interest. I want to know what the HSE has in place to ensure there is no conflict of interest.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: PwC has not acted for BAM or done work for it at any stage.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: On the site, I began by listing the reports and I will not return to to the subject . Is it correct that the independent report of 2011 recommended a greenfield site if money was not the issue. Would the greenfield site have been preferable?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I do not know about that because this has become a €2 billion project. Let us be reasonable for a moment. Money was the issue at that point but the experts were recommending a greenfield site with a trilocation.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Catherine Connolly: For the St. James's site, was it going to be a trilocation or a bilocation? I cannot remember.

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