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- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: That was the question I asked.
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: Okay. Mr. Mulvany is telling me the figure for the cheapest ventilator was in or around €28,000. There were not significant numbers of ventilators purchased for less than that. That would have raised a red flag that there was something wrong. If 1,735 ventilators were not received, there must have been a red flag at some point.
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: Did that raise queries? Did ventilators coming in at that price raise a red flag or was it just regarded as being down to the type of ventilator, as Mr. Mulvany said? Was that scrutinised?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: No, I am just asking whether that was scrutinised. Did Mr. Mulvany believe that was correct? The fact that we never got them did not raise a red flag. What is the reason that we never got them?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: In that case, I just want to move on because I am limited in time. We can come back to it. The question I have that seriously raises a red flag for me is why none of the ventilators was ever used. We got 465 and we paid for 2,200. According to the report, none of the 465 was ever used. Is Mr. Reid or one of the other witnesses able to answer that question?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: No, I want to go back.
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: I want to go back to this question. The HSE's internal audit report stipulates that none of the 465 ventilators received were used. Is that incorrect?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: I have limited time. This is the Committee of Public Accounts and I am asking a simple question. Were any of the 465 units used because according to the HSE’s internal audit we did not receive the 1,735 that we paid for? Of the 465 that we received, none were used. Is that correct or is it incorrect? I did not ask Mr. Reid where they went. I will come to that.
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: Yes, and that would be a “Yes” or “No” answer.
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: I apologise to Mr. Reid but where are the other 100 ventilators then?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: Are they fit for use or what is the reason that we did not use them? If they are in storage, in quarantine, why is this so?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: What does Mr. Reid mean by “their current state”? Can he elaborate on that, please?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: In terms of the specification at the time of ordering and the paying out of the money, it looks like we very much asked for forgiveness as opposed to permission. We are now paying for the storage of 100 ventilators that do not meet the specification of what is required. As I said, I have to ask these questions because this is the Committee of Public Accounts. I, like Deputy Carthy,...
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: That means, Mr. Mulvany, that we ordered 1,735-----
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: I want to hear it. It is just that we do not want to run out of time. I have no doubt that there is a good possibility that the HSE will need to come back here because I take Deputy Carthy’s point that if we cannot go back to 2019, I am not really sure how we are expected to learn lessons of where we are, going forward. I will move on-----
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: I want to move on but I will come back in later, Chairman. Why was there a consultancy cost in the accounts for Ernst & Young? It received in payment €17.7 million for one year. Can Mr. Reid explain that to me, please? Why did he feel that there needed to be a report?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: Was anybody from EY Ireland in an assisting position on that basis, outside of the consultancy?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: She was seconded to the HSE at no cost but then EY Ireland was in receipt of €17.7 million over and above what any consultant would have received.
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: No, I am not alleging anything. I am just saying that Ms O'Beirne was not in receipt of payment. The €17.7 million was for a consultancy outside of anything like Ms O'Beirne's role. Is that correct?
- Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statement 2020 and Related Matters: HSE (16 Sep 2021)
Verona Murphy: Was that before or after EY Ireland was asked to do a consultancy report?