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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: The more opaque something is, the more concerned about it I become. If there are very clear straight lines, it is transparent. The two names are very similar and we are being told we are misunderstanding this. It is a very similar name. In fact there is a certain amount of State money involved in this and there are people who have a stake in it through their pensions.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: That means it is very important to make sure those investments are robust. If they fail, the State picks up on the other side.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: It is great that we have money that has been invested.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: What does Mr. McCarthy mean by "gearing up"?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Does it mean they need more than one person?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: In this case they need one staff member.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Is it the general sector that is beefing up, rather than the City of Dublin ETB?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: The City of Dublin ETB will not have its own internal auditor but the function will be available to them.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: What is that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: We always said we would deal with the Kildare-Wicklow ETB issue when the report was published.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: We only saw that yesterday. The former CEO has now retired. At the time he committed to appear before the committee subsequently. I know there is another investigation. Is he being asked to come in?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I understand that the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform would set this out for others. We are telling that Department what is in its own circular and that Department is supposed to make sure other Departments and agencies understand what is in the circular it issued. That seems extraordinary to me.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: On a general point, the previous Government and, I presume, the current Government agreed to an open Government approach but it does not feel as if that is the case here. I accept there are reports that can be commissioned for a particular purpose. However, in terms of informing us but also in terms of the estimates of public money being spent that help to inform an understanding of what...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: We could find ourselves in the newspapers for overusing our ink cartridges.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: I thank the witnesses for coming in and I am sorry if they were delayed, although it might be the same for each group. As time is short, we might go forward and backwards with the questions and answers, and I might get fairly snappy answers, if possible. I picked up on the part of the opening statement that referred to ComReg. I looked at the Analysys Mason report that was published...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: What were those concerns?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Irrespective of which company was running the MANs contract, if it had a wholesale element and a retail element they would have to be clearly separated. It is fair to say that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: The BT representatives reckon that this issue is more or less addressed in the Analysys Mason report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
Broadband Service Provision: Discussion
BT Ireland
(14 Feb 2019)

Catherine Murphy: Is anything outstanding? The report says that elements have been implemented so there has obviously been a dialogue between the Department, the people who produced the report, and the company. The report says that elements have been implemented. Have the elements relating to these concerns been fully implemented or are some things outstanding?

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