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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: We should be careful not to overstate the potential burden or the financial implications of this move.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: Even if it is €5 million over ten years, they will spend billions of euro over that period on housing for tenancies.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes. I am talking about housing bodies. The figure is inconsequential but I do not even agree with it.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I will come back to the finances in a second. We have tier 1, tier 2 and tier 3 housing bodies in this country which do excellent and incredible work.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: The tier 1 companies are the small guys who may have ten tenancies. They have an obligation to register tenancies with the RTB which requires paperwork for each tenant and is a burden for the volunteers who, in many cases, run these bodies. It will take a few hours for this to be done for ten tenants but moving to annual registration does not meant they have to do all the work which they do...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: To clarify, I did not say that this would not add a burden to AHBs. I said that there is a burden in this and that we would make it as minimal as possible. Given the changes in technology the Residential Tenancies Board, RTB, is advancing, if it can be it will be a click button process. That is vastly different from having to compile the paperwork for ten different tenants on an annual...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I do not have the figures in front of me in terms of the percentage of disputes that come to the RTB from the AHB sector or a breakdown between whether it is the landlord or the tenant in that situation. If that information is made publicly available we will get it to the Deputy.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I know there are because-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: The idea is that the mechanism is available in case it is needed and that mechanism needs to be available, which is important. The important point is that we can have an up to date and accurate picture of what is happening in our rental market, including what is happening in AHBs because they go through the RTB, unlike what happens in local authority housing. That is what is required for...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I am not saying they will not be a burden on the tier 3 companies but the tier 3 are the big ones. They have administrative and other paid staff and they are doing all of this. If I worry, I worry about the tier 1 companies. I am thinking off the top of my head of one of the tier 1 companies in my constituency, which is an old folks home with 15 or 16 tenants. I will not say any more in...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: It is currently being built. We are looking to go to annual registration of tenancies from quarter 1 of 2020.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: There has never been any technological hiccoughs in the building of any system.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: History is on my side on that one.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: Government amendment No. 181 inserts a new section 26 in Part 3 of the Bill to provide for the application of the Residential Tenancies Acts of 2004-16 to the student specific accommodation let under licence to students in a similar manner to which the Act applies to student specific accommodation let under tenancies to students. The necessary technical modifications and definitions are...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I move amendment No. 4: In page 6, between lines 2 and 3, to insert the following: “Amendment of section 3A of Act of 2004 3. Section 3A of the Act of 2004 is amended by the insertion of the following subsection: “(5) This section applies to a dwelling referred to in subsection (1A)* of section 3 as it applies to a dwelling referred to in subsection (4) of section 3 and,...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I move amendment No. 5: In page 6, between lines 2 and 3, to insert the following: “Amendment of section 4 of Act of 2004 4. Section 4 of the Act of 2004 is amended by the deletion of paragraph (g) in the definition of “public authority”.”.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I cannot accept the amendments but I appreciate the motivation behind them. I have lost my deposit before in circumstances I thought were absolutely incredible. When I saw the dispute options open to me, I felt the burden of pursuing them was not going to be worth the money I was trying to retrieve. I have also been in a situation where I have used a deposit to cover my final monthly rent...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: If I may be of assistance to the committee, I said this to Deputy O'Brien when we were talking between ourselves but did not say it to anyone else, we all got the grouping list of amendments a bit late. They were grouped differently from how we thought they might have been. I had told Deputy O'Brien that I would not be able to accept amendments because we had not had enough time to see what...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I will do the same for amendment No. 8 as well. I absolutely respect the principle of one month's rent as a deposit. I do not think there should be anything like key money. It is just that we have not had a chance to see what other impacts there might be. I will absolutely look at those two amendments between now and Report Stage. On a point of clarification, the current idea is that all...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (11 Apr 2019)

Eoghan Murphy: I will look at amendment No. 12 as well. That definition is very comprehensive.

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