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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: I am concerned that the discussion might be devolving into statements. There are specific areas for discussion within the Vote, dealing both with big ticket items and smaller ones. I presume the Minister and his officials are examining each of these intensely with a view to identifying how savings can be made with the minimal impact. That is what any Minister in any Government would seek...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: I should have informed members at the start of the meeting that the Minister has to leave at noon. On the specific point raised by Deputy Ó Cuív, it was my understanding that each Department is required to implement a 5% reduction in capital expenditure. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: The Minister should proceed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: I am anxious that everybody has an opportunity to contribute. Deputy Ó Cuív's proposal is valid but-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: I am happy to keep the meeting going until noon.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: I propose that the meeting be suspended until after the Dáil vote.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Over the last few years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: I propose to suspend the proceedings until after the division in the Dáil.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Had Deputy Heydon concluded or did he wish to make another point?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: I will take that list of questions. First, as I note we did not finalise the manner in which the meeting was to work, I wish to establish there is no material impact on the 2013 budget as a result of either unexpected cost savings or additional expenditure from the 2012 allocation. I seek clarity in respect of the 2013 figure. The Minister has outlined the implications, including the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Going back to the figure of €114 million, does the AEOS have to be added on to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Would any provision for a suckler cow welfare scheme, say for €12 million, have to be added on to that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Is the Minister only allowing for a nominal amount of a couple of million euro?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Would a figure of €15 million, just for the purpose of what we are trying to get to here today, for the provision of a suckler welfare scheme and the AEOS provision for 2013 be accurate?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Accordingly, we take this from the €48 million figure which brings this down to €33 million of savings. If we take this off €114 million, we are left with €81 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: That is the nuts and bolts of it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: That is what we are trying to get to here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: In regard to the allocation, which was €220 million, is now approximately €205 million and will be €190 million, is it possible to indicate how it is broken down into the three categories?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Can the Minister also indicate the average payment for each area? That is what we need.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Public Expenditure Allocation 2013: Vote 30 - Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (25 Oct 2012)

Andrew Doyle: Am I correct to say that the maximum payment is the same regardless of designation?

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