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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Sport Industry Strategy: Engagement with Horse Sport Ireland (21 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: I know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Sport Industry Strategy: Engagement with Horse Sport Ireland (21 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: I know, and I know Mr. Duggan is relatively new in the role. I refer to some of Mr. Duggan's colleagues. When was the last time that they formally met with ECVOA?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Sport Industry Strategy: Engagement with Horse Sport Ireland (21 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: But when did HSI meet with them last?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Sport Industry Strategy: Engagement with Horse Sport Ireland (21 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: Is any of Mr. Duggan's colleagues able to tell me when was the last time HSI met them?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Sport Industry Strategy: Engagement with Horse Sport Ireland (21 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: They have had no formal meeting. We went into Covid in 2020 and HSI has had no formal meeting with that body - probably the largest representative commercial body within the horse industry - in the past three years.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Sport Industry Strategy: Engagement with Horse Sport Ireland (21 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: I would be familiar with many of them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Sport Industry Strategy: Engagement with Horse Sport Ireland (21 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: There is an overlap, but the industry depends on competition and we need competition venues. It would be concerning that it is in excess of three years since HSI has met that body.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Sport Industry Strategy: Engagement with Horse Sport Ireland (21 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: I suppose the message from today is the need to request a meeting. HSI is more than willing to meet them. It is an important part of the engagement process and the future of the industry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: I thank the speakers for coming in, in particular Mr. Rushe for his very reasoned opening statement. I will concentrate on growers but have a couple of questions for Mr. Rushe first. On Lidl and Aldi, we all appreciate we need cheap food but they are in many respects a divisive force in the Irish supermarket sector, particularly when it comes to suppliers and producers. In 2021, Lidl...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: So the IFA cannot do any publicity around that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: -----outside of this room, obviously.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: How divisive is and how big an impact has what Lidl and Aldi do? Call it what it is: false advertising, false Irish names and branding something as Irish that is not Irish.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: On peat, there was a court case in the midlands earlier in June where the EPA had taken three growers to court. It was a major win for the producers in that the court established that three boglands were not technically and hydrologically connected. The EPA has continued to contend its flawed claim that bogland is hydrologically linked but unfortunately for it, it was unable to produce any...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: I welcome Niall McCormack who is a near neighbour of mine in Longford. I am delighted to see several of his neighbours have come to support him here. There was a debate on the EPA in the Dáil earlier where farmers were again vilified but Mr. McCormack's neighbours are here to support him in the important role he plays both as a custodian of the land and also a keen environmentalist....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: Would the new Bill and the Minister of State's commitment on the pilot for the first quarter of 2024 resolve the matter to the IFA's satisfaction and put the Irish sector on a par with what an employer can offer in Europe?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: So the biggest issue in horticulture is the availability of staff.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: The fruit grower's price now is reasonable but what about compared with five years ago?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: Has Mr. McCormack outsourced his packing or is it done on site?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: Is that producer group selling Mr. McCormack's product or is he selling it direct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Consolidation in Horticultural Grower Numbers: Discussion (28 Jun 2023)

Joe Flaherty: Which of the multiples is Mr. McCormack selling to?

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