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Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: The Minister accepted it in the other House.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: I just thought I would ram home the point that we got one amendment accepted.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: However, that does not extend to consular or embassy services abroad.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: I move amendment No. 28: In page 42, before section 51, to insert the following new section: "51.—(1) Where a person is formally granted guardianship of an infant, the details of the guardianship shall be entered in the register of guardianship. (2) Persons who acquire guardianship shall furnish all details of such guardianship, together with all necessary documentation to the Civil...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage. (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: I request a lobby vote.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: Senator Henry's amendment is superior to my amendment, which is clumsy. We wanted to delete from "may" until "section 13". It is an important issue and we need clarity on it. As it is currently worded, "may" gives a great deal of latitude to the officials concerned and Senator Henry's much clearer amendment, substituting "may" for "shall", will give a firm view about searches, an issue of...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: Having re-read the subsection, I want the Minister to further clarify the matter. The subsection states "on payment to him or her of the prescribed fee, may, subject to such conditions (if any) ..." What possible conditions would there be? In the case of adoption, I am aware there is specific law on this area which requires a great deal of discretion from the officials concerned, but I am not...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: I thank the Minister for her interpretation of those words, on which I concede. Will she consider framing the section a little better for Report Stage on the basis that on practical grounds it may be difficult, as Senator Mansergh said, to carry out a search? Will she consider inserting such an explanation to provide some definition in this regard? I am not being overly prescriptive but if...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: I move amendment No. 35: In page 51, subsection (1), after line 48, to insert the following paragraph: "(c) on payment to him or her of the prescribed fee (if any) and subject to subsections (3) and (4), shall be entitled to, subject to such conditions (if any) as may stand determined by an tArd-Chláraitheoir (without the need of recourse to any index) search any (i) register of births...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: Yes, but as far as I am aware there is no legislative basis for doing so. Would it not be more sensible from a legal perspective to address this in the Bill now, given that we are putting in place a civil registration code for the next 15 to 20 years, as I have said repeatedly this afternoon? I am very happy for the people of Roscommon town because the GRO is now based there. We all welcome it.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: Civil registration is a long way from former Deputy Reynolds.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: I am grateful to the Cathaoirleach. I am interested in hearing Senator Wilson's views on amendment No. 35 and he will have ample time to air them in a moment.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: Obviously there is trouble in the Fianna Fáil camp. It would be sensible to establish and maintain a public genealogical search facility in Dublin. What are the Minister's views on this?

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: Off the beaten track.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: There is obviously a good reason for that.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: I appreciate what the Minister has said. Presumably all of this material is not currently in electronic format.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: This new provision will kick in when it is in electronic format, but to take Senator Mansergh's point, nothing would prevent an historian or indeed anyone else, from getting the original copy. The Minister is giving a commitment on that. On another point as regards genealogical searches, the capital city has huge numbers of people arriving from other parts of the world, North America in...

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: That point has to be kept in mind.

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: When does the Minister expect this to be rolled out?

Seanad: Civil Registration Bill 2003: Committee Stage (Resumed). (18 Feb 2004)

Brian Hayes: I move amendment No. 37: In page 52, subsection (2), line 26, to delete "specified by the applicant".

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