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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is the Department of Health saying that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: I get a variation of answers from others on that. I want to know what the position is.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: We are telling the public that there is more money going in, and we are going to and fro and back and forward. They are saying that is all fine but they still cannot get the service. Those are the four questions. Will Mr. Watt come back to me on those?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Has the protocol changed? Is there a protocol in place now?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: It is an individual issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: We are all being contacted regarding the €1,000 payment and the unions are on to it as well. In relation to the agency workers, there is a problem where people moved employment from one agency to another. It is a bit more complicated than it looked. Has the money been transferred into the accounts of the agencies at this point, because some of the agencies were saying that it had...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: That would be section 38s and 39s

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Are the private nursing homes within that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Have they got the cash?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: This is in relation to Sláintecare and eHealth and Mr. Thompson may wish to comment on this also. In 2018, the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform made the decision to refuse funding for the electronic record system until after the children's hospital was completed. Mr. Watt, in your role as Secretary General of that Department, was that the correct decision to make?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Does Mr.Thompson feel that this will create problems for commissioning and having the IT system in place in the national children's hospital?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: A patchwork had to be put in place to try to address that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: What funding has been allocated for the children's hospital to implement this system?.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: The commissioning period is set for six months. Is the IT system expected to be operational in that timeframe?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay. The overall cost is €41 million for the IT system?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: It has been suggested here today that the building work will be completed in early 2024. When is it expected to be commissioned? Obviously the information part is a big part of this project.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: By 24 September?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: Will the witnesses answer briefly on the plan to meet that need?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: There are statistics for the gaps in the services across the various teams. That is established.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 - Health
Chapter 12 - Financial Impact of Cyber Security Attack
(9 Feb 2023)

Brian Stanley: We have asked the HSE before about this matter. Will the Department come back on populating those empty positions? It is over one third. The HSE confirmed that to us. We know that from the figures. My party colleague got the figures about two months ago and they showed huge gaps. It is roughly between 30% and 40%. That is accepted. Trying to fill those positions is a challenge. Will...

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