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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Perhaps Mr. Hernan might get back to us on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: With all due respect, I find that incredible. Is Mr. Hernan saying that Bus Éireann does not keep a record or that he did not see fit to look at those figures before coming before us to discuss this issue today? Which of those is the case? Does Bus Éireann not keep a record of wheelchair users who have been let down year-by-year or did Mr. Hernan not think to look at those...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Does Bus Éireann keep a record?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Is it of wheelchair users who were let down? It was a specific question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: I am trying to find out whether Bus Éireann keeps a record

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: My question was very specific.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Does Bus Éireann keep a record of wheelchair users who were let down? The answer is "Yes" or "No". Does it keep a specific record of wheelchair users who were let down by the service?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: That is fair enough. I accept that but I would like to find out whether Bus Éireann keeps a record of wheelchair users who were let down for 2017.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: We will have that and can make comparisons. Mr. Hernan will have a detailed list of complaints.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: We will know when he furnishes us with it. In respect of the 48-hour notice at weekends and the notification, Mr. Hernan said spoke about it being in line with the prevailing practice across other EU countries but he is not talking about the weekend service. He is talking about the 24-hour service. I am talking about a situation where if somebody decides to visit a relative on a Sunday, he...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Does the requirement under EU legislation not involve 24 hours' notice?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Is that day-to-day or a weekend period?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Bus Éireann asks to be informed by 3 p.m. on the Friday before the journey. If someone wants to travel on the 3 o'clock bus on the Sunday to see a relative, that is 48 hours, which is 12 hours over the EU regulation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: That is it. It seems grossly unfair. I would have thought it was not in line with EU regulations but if I am wrong about that I stand to be corrected. Bus Éireann is a long way off providing the proper, rights-based wheelchair access for people with disabilities that would be expected. Mr. Hernan has to admit that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Mr. Hernan will get back to me with that record for 2017. I have a question for Iarnród Éireann about the free travel pass and the charge.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Great, but is that not in breach of EU legislation? The reason, in the first instance, people are awarded free travel passes are specific to those individuals and, more often than not, it is because they either are pensioners or have disabilities. Therefore, if those people are awarded free travel passes, surely there should be an exemption for them. They are not paying customers. They...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Will he look at the legislation around it too? That is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: The reality is that they have to pay because they cannot access Iarnród Éireann's trains.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: The Coach Tourism and Transport Council's opening statement calls for, among other things, investment in infrastructure and State funding for staff training and private operators to deal with requests for accessibility. That is all fine and commendable, but when the CTTC calls for State funding for private operators, how does it propose that be funded?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities: Discussion (Resumed) (17 Jan 2018)

Imelda Munster: Yes, but the reason for that is quite clear, that is, that public transport service providers provide a public service. For example, they would operate-----

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