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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: No. The Minister of State indicated that he has to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Does anyone wish to respond?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: If none of our other guests wishes to comment, I will turn to Deputy Niamh Smyth. After the Deputy, I will call Senator Marie-Louise O'Donnell. There will be two sets of questions before we turn back to our guests.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Senator Marie-Louise O'Donnell is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I will come back to Deputy Smyth, time permitting, but three other members are waiting to contribute.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I am trying to make sure that everyone has an opportunity to contribute because we only have the room for a limited time. I would love to sit here all day. Three members have yet to contribute but if we have time, I will come back to Mr. Dorgan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I have a few questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I have waited.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: If I were to impose the normal rules of debate in the House in this type of debate we would not have the benefit-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: -----of the exchanges we have had, which will be very useful in compiling our report. There are two items of information which the witnesses might enjoy and which the members should take on board. Next week, representatives of the Abbey Theatre, some of the people who wrote the letter and representatives of the Arts Council will appear before the committee because it is so important. It...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Heritage, Regional, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs: Why the Arts Matter: Discussion (23 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Táim ag iarraidh críoch a chur leis an gcruinniú. Gabhaim buíochas leis na finnéithe a thánaigh isteach inniu: Ms Garry Hynes, Mr. Philip King, Fr. Mark Patrick Hederman agus Mr. Theo Dorgan. Tá cead agaibh bualadh bos a thabhairt, más mian libh.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Where does one start with this issue? I will start with what SOFAs are about. They are not for sitting on; they are in the main basically to grant immunity in the face of prosecution. They are also for things that are perhaps a little more benign, car crashes and the like, for soldiers operating overseas. If we look at how SOFAs have been used by other militaries over recent years, we can...

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I did not say that.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: That is not what the Minister of State said.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: The more the Minister of State speaks, the more questions pop up in my head. He stated in his first contribution that EU SOFA is covered by the Lisbon treaty and therefore does not require Dáil approval. He then said he could just go to Cabinet. He is being transparent. I welcome transparency on every occasion. Is linking the two together cover for the PfP SOFA? I presume we have...

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: On the Lisbon treaty, I did not make that accusation on the record and I was making a different point. The Minister of State stated, "I would like to highlight that approval from the Dáil is not required in relation to ratification of the EU SOFA as this is covered by the Lisbon treaty." He went on to state that approval from the Dáil is not needed and that the Cabinet could sign...

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Exactly. One is cover for the other, therefore, if the two are being linked together.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Did the Minister of State present it or was it dictated to him?

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I did not say it was simple.

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Ratification of EU and NATO Status of Forces Agreements: Discussion (24 Jan 2019)

Aengus Ó Snodaigh: That is because the Germans dictate to us.

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