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Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: I move amendment No. 119: In page 92, lines 4 to 6, to delete all words from and including "(within" in line 4 down to and including "section." in line 6 and substitute the following:"established by the Local Government Act 1991 (Regional Authorities) (Establishment) Order 1993 (S.I. No. 394 of 1993).".

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: I move amendment No. 120: In page 92, between lines 15 and 16, to insert the following: “PART 10 REGIONAL ASSEMBLIES AND REGIONAL SPATIAL AND ECONOMIC STRATEGYRegional assemblies and regional spatial and economic strategy 58. (1) The Planning and Development Act 2000 is amended by substituting the following for Chapter III of Part II: “CHAPTER III Regional Spatial and Economic...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: I move amendment No. 125: “PART 11 LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUND AND IRISH WATERAmendment of section 6 of Local Government Act 199866. Section 6 of the Local Government Act 1998 is amended--(a) in subsection (2C) (inserted by section 7 of the Motor Vehicle (Duties and Licences) Act 2013) by substituting the following for paragraph (a):“(a) Subject to paragraphs (b) and (c) the Minister...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: Good.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: The Deputy needs to go out and come back in again.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: From where does the money come?

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: Local authorities are funded through the Local Government Fund, which since the abolition of rates in 1997 includes motor tax receipts.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: Part funded.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: Some €1.1 billion, from which €378 million was spent on roads. The remaining €660 million was given to local authorities for the provision of services, which included water. We now have to take out funding for Irish Water.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: I will be giving back approximately €500 million.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: Some €550 million from the local property tax receipts will go into the Local Government Fund. Some €600 million from motor tax receipts will be used for deficit reduction. We know why we need to do that. Members will be very surprised when the figures are published in the next week or so. The local authority budgets for 2014 will not be in any way worse than in 2013, which...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: Can I make-----

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: Irish Water was established as a semi-State company because we wanted to borrow money on the markets as we do not, and will not for a few years, have money under the public capital programme for obvious reasons. To cater for the big demand that there is for water in areas where there is pressure, including in the areas represented by Deputies Cowen, Catherine Murphy, Stanley and, in...

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: They will. The Deputy asked other questions also. The service level agreement is with local authorities for operation and maintenance. On the one hand, people say we are taking local authority staff out of the equation, but when I leave them in it, there is a problem also.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: They are not. Irish Water will manage the direct relationship with the local authority staff through a service level agreement. These agreements will be signed before the end of the year. Nobody I am aware of has received a severance payment.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: They transferred under their existing pay and pension provisions to Irish Water from the local authority on secondment. If people retired and subsequently obtained a post at Irish Water, that is obviously different. However, 99% of those involved are operating on the basis of their pay and conditions of employment in local authorities, but they are working for Irish Water.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: The €600 million about which we are talking transferring to the Exchequer in water tax is not going to Irish Water. It is going to the Minister for Finance for deficit reduction purposes.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: The sum of €500 million is what the Exchequer agreed to.

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: The sum of €500 million is what is-----

Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht: Select Sub-Committee on the Environment, Community and Local Government: Local Government Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Phil Hogan: Irish Water will be making provision for it.

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