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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: Chairman, there are some "Yes" and "No" answers but I am going to give background-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: -----as to the reasons.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: I am under no-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: He asked me eight questions. I will not give a "Yes" or "No" answer. There are specific reasons as to why I am giving an answer. He asked me about the appointment of the chair of the conciliation and arbitration scheme. I do not have the name of the independent chairman as there are still some outstanding issues with the representative associations, but I am happy that I will have those...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: Chairman, that is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: I will come back to the Chairman specifically on that issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: I will try to go through all of the questions. There are a number of them and some of them overlap. Senator Craughwell asked about the Lariam issue. The first case heard in the High Court was on 3 November 2017 and the matter was settled on 30 November 2017 without admission or liability. The next Lariam case was listed for hearing on 15 March 2019 and the case was settled and struck out...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: Rome was not built in a day. This has been going on for the past 12 to 18 months and I am delighted it has been done now. Military management and the representative association looked for this. This came to my attention in the past 18 months. Two pilots have returned and more pilots are to return. Regarding the allowances specifically for people in the Air Corps, this is going through...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: Following the launch of the air ambulance service in 2012, RACO submitted a claim for lieutenants and captains tasked with flying the helicopter service. The public service pay agreements do not allow for a cost increase in claims. Instead of introducing a new allowance, it was agreed through conciliation and arbitration to pay the pilots the equivalent of the security duty allowance, SDA,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: In response to Deputy O'Loughlin, I have never distorted the figures. The figures are there-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: No, I do not believe I have ever said that. I answered Senator McFadden in regard to the infrastructure at the Curragh and I thank her for acknowledging the work that is ongoing. I have acknowledged the point on pay rates with other members. What was the Deputy's exact question on the Army Ranger Wing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: I announced part of that in July of this year.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: There is a case going forward. The agreed back payment was to 1 October 2018. In the context of payments before that date, PDFORRA has indicated it will pursue this. That is a matter for PDFORRA to pursue on behalf of the Army Ranger Wing. People talk about me being a full Minister, half Minister or whatever sort of Minister. I am absolutely and totally committed to this job. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: I have the very same influence at Cabinet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: If we look at the budget, is the first time since 2006 or 2007 that there has been two or three years in a row when the budget is over €1 billion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: The Deputy is totally incorrect. I know form where she is getting her figures. The people who gave her that figure have an ulterior motive. I can tell her one thing: their motive is not to strengthen the Defence Forces. What they want to do is weaken the Defence Forces. An awful lot of these people on social media want to weaken the Defence Forces. They have an axe to grind. I will...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: Deputy Heydon contacted me in respect of the secondary school at the Curragh Camp on a number of occasions. A great deal of work is taking place.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: There is ongoing work involving the Department of Education and Skills, my Department and the Defence Forces. I thank the Deputy, who I met in respect of that issue with a cross-party delegation. The Curragh Camp is a working military camp, so we just cannot go in and plant a school in the middle of it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: Everybody accepts that. It is a question of getting the right site. The GOC and military management have to look at what they need in the Curragh Camp over the next five, ten and 20 years. We cannot build a school and then find that, in three or five years, we regret it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence: Recruitment and Retention in the Defence Forces: Discussion with Minister of State (28 Nov 2019)

Paul Kehoe: I can reassure the Deputy. Whether it is the Department of Defence, military management or the Curragh Camp, we are doing a favour by giving a site to build a school.

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