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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is that an Intreo office?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is not a full one. The staff there are brilliant. They are my next-door neighbours and they are very good. They are super-efficient. However, there is a problem in relation to that outreach and the absence of face-to-face meetings. Sometimes the people who are applying need help filling out the forms. They are very straightforward forms. However, there is a problem in terms of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: What locations are in County Laois?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: I think Rathdowney is gone.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am asking the Department to re-examine that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: In towns such as Mountmellick, Mountrath, Rathdowney, Graiguecullen and places like that, the service being pulled has caused a problem among the most vulnerable. If it can be done, I have no problem with it being part time and one morning a week or whatever. However, we need to reinstate that service.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: There are problems with that though. There are complaints of trying to get through and chasing lines. There is a problem with that service. People sending emails-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: That sounds like the way Ms Leonard is saying it works. What I am saying is that there are problems. Ms Leonard mentioned 93%. That means it is not working for 7%. It is not an easy system to work. Issues like no Intreo office-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am conscious of time as an important visitor is due to address the Dáil today. We have another meeting after this one.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: Could Mr. McKeon send a note to the meeting about where community welfare officers are available for face-to-face meetings in Laois-Offaly?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: That would be great.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: I apologise for rushing things at the end. I thank the witnesses and the staff from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform for appearing before us this morning. I also thank the Comptroller and Auditor General and his staff for assisting the committee. Is it agreed that the clerk will seek any follow-up information and carry out any actions arising from the meeting? Agreed. Is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 37 - Social Protection - Social Insurance Fund 2021
Chapter 10: Regularity of social welfare payments
Chapter 11: The recovery of benefit and assistance payments following compensation awards
Chapter 14: Classification of workers for PRSI purposes
(1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: The business before members consists of minutes, accounts and financial statements, correspondence, work programme and any other business. We will then go briefly into private session before adjourning until Thursday, 8 December, when we will engage with the Office of the Revenue Commissioners and the operator of the national lottery. We will end the meeting at 1.30 p.m. because the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: There are two of note among those that have been presented. One is the Medical Bureau of Road Safety. I will ask the secretariat to correspond with it on that. Do any members wish to come in with questions? Okay. We will follow up on the two late ones, namely, the residential institutions redress special account and the Medical Bureau of Road Safety. That was very late. We will...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will request that. Is that agreed? Agreed. No. R1582 is from Mr. Mark Griffin, Secretary General of the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications, and is dated 17 November 2022. It provides information requested by the committee regarding landfill remediation. It includes spreadsheets detailing the current status of all 494 sites, which is a considerable number....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: We will request that information. No. R1588 is from Mr. Ray Mitchell, assistant national director of the HSE, and is dated 21 November 2022. It provides information requested by the committee regarding governance arrangements for section 38 and 39 organisations. I flagged this one. Reading the response, I was trying to understand the level of compliance. I propose we write back...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: I read the letter a number of times. I found it-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is not written for a layperson. It is very much written in the type of language used between the contractor and the board and with which they are familiar. It is not that helpful to us.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (1 Dec 2022)

Brian Stanley: The letter is as clear as mud. We need to-----

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