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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I do not have that table to hand. I am told three have returned them and one has not. On the circulars, we have agreed the circulars with the committee, as clarified earlier by the Acting Chairman. On the vacancy, that has been achieved in terms of putting the teams in place as per that item. The quarter 3 report on the vacancy work was published so the committee should have that report...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The Deputy also mentioned a review of the Rebuilding Ireland home loan. Consistency is key. Among the recommendations made to me one constantly repeated was the need for consistency in application in each local authority. At the beginning of next year we will be able to implement those recommendations, which I have separated into two tiers. The first tier, which is the easy stuff that we...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The ceiling is currently €2 million and consideration is being given to raising it to €6 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: As long as it is in compliance with the public spending code set out by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Subject to the public spending code. Local authorities are telling members that there is a four stage approval process and it is taking them too long to process applications when they could have taken those projects through the one stage approval process but did not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Everything is conditional on the public spending code. We are all tied by the public spending code, including Fianna Fáil.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There is already an existing stick. Approximately 200 schemes could have gone through the one stage process but instead went through the four stage process. Why is that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: This issues was raised in an engagement I had with the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform about four weeks ago. There is ongoing engagement between myself, the Minister for Finance and the Taoiseach. At one of those meetings this issue was raised and an agreement was given at that time by the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. We are almost there and hope to have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: If it came to that I would seek to have the public spending code amended. I would not want to inadvertently cause a general election across the committee floor. It is such a sensitive time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Deputy O'Brien should not believe all he reads in the newspapers. I will be facing him across the floor of this committee for some time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The Deputy's predecessor said the same and he is gone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: On credit union funding, we have changed the law. The Central Bank has changed the conditions around credit union funding. We have provided funding to allow the credit unions to explore how they put together a special purpose vehicle, SPV. We cannot force a housing body and a credit union to come together in an SPV. We also cannot set up the SPV.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It is where it is at.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Deputy O'Brien engaged on the issue with the Minister of State, Deputy English.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I am sorry but the Deputy pushes certain buttons.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We could spend hours on this issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Let us be fair to the Minister of State, Deputy English. The correct answer was given in the exchange during Question Time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: The change has been made by the Central Bank and the Government has provided funding for the special purpose vehicle. We cannot force a housing body, which is not a government body, and a credit union, which also is not a government body, to come together to develop a special purpose vehicle to deliver housing. We cannot force them to do that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I will now respond to the questions from Deputy Boyd Barrett. The National Oversight Advisory Council, NOAC, does not count housing bodies in Part V. Those are social housing homes that come into the social housing stock. People from the local authority housing lists are allocated those homes.

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