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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I will respond to Senator Boyhan's point first. It is absolutely no problem. I want people to be assured that work has continued. It is not that nothing is happening. The NDFA has been working with the local authority to try to get the financial model right. I had my staff out there again today to see what further work can be done. I raised it with the representatives of the European...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: This is what delivers. We are for housing in the Department of Housing, Planning and Local Government. We want to make sure there are no unnecessary delays or blockages. We also want to make sure we get it right. We do not want this to proceed through the various stages and processes and fail at the last minute because the financial modelling was rushed. Much has been done. The NDFA is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It makes a significant difference to their lives. It is a nice meeting to have.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Right. That is a different meeting to have.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Of course. What we are trying to do with the assessment now is to see how we can improve it and if there are other criteria that would allow us to widen it a little bit to include more people. That work is ongoing, but it does involve engagement with the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform as it does not fall solely to my Department. I know people were worried about the loan...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I am sorry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I could just say Eoin and Darragh if I thought members would not be offended. Can we drop the parliamentary protocol?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I am not going to be talking to myself, not in front of the committee anyway. We have had 1,000 applications for the repair and leasing scheme, RLS, as of quarter 3 of this year. One hundred agreements for lease have been signed. To date, we have had 39 solely in 2018. We know the delivery in 2017 was poor, with nine. We have 100 leased and we are working through another 100...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We are not taking it that it is going to be on-balance sheet.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: One of the indications of that is that not all of the tier 3 bodies were told they would have to go on-balance sheet. It shows that there are ways around this that may be able to be addressed in the regulation Bill that is coming through. We continue to look at that to see what can be done in that regard. We will continue to fight that good fight. The most important message for the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Super rapids. Double down.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I beg your pardon, Chairman. I am sorry. The programme has not been shelved but the delays we are seeing are not necessarily at the on-site side. Some of the delays are in getting local authorities to use the delivery method. I hope the new procurement framework being pioneered by Dublin City Council on volumetric modular housing will open the way for other local authorities to use it as...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the Deputies for that line of questions. I will try to answer all of them, as I have taken a note of them. I will begin with Deputy Ó Broin's questions and deal with the questions in the order in which they were asked. If we note quarter 3, and the delivery on the build side, it appears we will have to do a lot of heavy lifting in the fourth quarter, but that is not to give...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I imagine they are because I do not believe anybody else other than the board can issue a fine. That was the legal advice we got back on this new level of administrative sanctions. From having read some of the files, my understanding is that the board does that. Regarding the capital advance leasing facility, CALF and affordability, we determined in our conversations ahead of the budget...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes, but the Deputy asked if we can use CALF as a way of getting affordable homes and not use it for only social housing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I understand the point the Deputy is making. No, we are going to do that with the serviced sites fund instead. That is a decision we have taken.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes, the decision is to use the EIB funding with the serviced sites fund for both affordable purchase and cost rental. That is subject to the application to the EIB being successful but we know from communications we have had to date that it is supportive of what we are trying to do. It is familiar with the models we are trying to use because it is has helped us to design them. Regarding...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I understand the point the Deputy is making. On Senator Boyhan's questions, I am hoping to have the criteria for the serviced sites fund new week but there are a number of issues I need to get through by the end of the year, for example, the commitments I made in regard to the land development agency, its board, the mica issue, etc. The point I was making in my opening comments was that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It is the end of November for the current assessment. If a Dublin local authority is telling the Senator-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland: Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government. (12 Dec 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We made this call out to the Dublin local authorities during the summer. Of the 11 local authorities to which we made this call, which included the four Dublin local authorities, nine have returned their assessments and we now have first sites for approval. It is not the case that a local authority is sitting on its hands and not carrying out the assessment. It is an affordability issue....

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