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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: It looks like we will be able to bring it forward to 24 May.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Let us agree now that we will start with CIT, UCC and the HEA.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We will include that. It is down as a topic anyway, so we will start with it. That will be the first topic that day.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We are discussing matters related to the CervicalCheck revelations. In particular, we will examine the management of legal costs and the policy on open disclosure. These matters were included in the work programme of the Committee of Public Accounts to be considered in July, but as a result of the matters that have come to light, members agreed that they should be dealt with more urgently....

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: No, sorry.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: The statements are only from Mr. Breslin and Mr. Breen. I have seen so much of Mr. O'Brien this week, I thought there was a statement. Is it agreed that we will take Mr. Breslin and Mr. Breen's statements as read? Agreed. The director general of the HSE and Mr. McCallion will have to leave in an hour and a half, as the cervical cancer issues with which we are dealing are live ones and...

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We will have to move on now.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Dr. Holohan has indicated that perhaps-----

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: That is fair enough.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Mr. O'Brien should deal with the first set of questions and then answer the follow-up question.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Please allow Mr. O'Brien to answer the question.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: As a matter of interest, who sent the letter to Mr. O'Brien?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Perfect. Who held the position at the time?

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: It depends on the circumstances.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I call Deputy Peter Burke.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Yes, we are going to go around again. The Deputy was not here at the beginning when I explained to everyone that there is a different system working today because we have a shorter period.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We are going to try to get around again.

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I thank Mr. McCallion. We will have another round of questions but I have a couple of quick questions myself. Mr. O'Brien mentioned a letter dated March or April 2016-----

Public Accounts Committee: State Claims, Management of Legal Costs and Policy on Open Disclosure
Implications of CervicalCheck Revelations
2016 Financial Statements of the State Claims Agency
2016 Financial Statements of the HSE
(10 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: The memo came from the director of well-being. Mr. O'Brien has said that the person was the director of well-being. Is the person still the director of well-being?

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