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Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Fianna Fáil will not be in Government to deal with it.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Senator Norris is not currently in the Chamber but earlier he was giving us lectures about not being too political concerning these matters. Given his capacity to politicise the most extraordinary things, however, I am not sure about that. I accept the movement of people within the European Union, particularly the expanded EU, is an issue that needs to be sorted out but it deserves to be done...

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Is it under the EU treaty?

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Will the Minister explain that?

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Why will they receive child benefit?

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Why?

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Child benefit is not assistance.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Excuse my ignorance but I cannot find that provision in the legislation.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Which court was involved?

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I thank the Minister because, as she has often done in the past, she has educated me. This is complicated legislation and I do not think we have debated it excessively. I take it that the reference to section 193 in Schedule 1 to a qualified person applies to people who would otherwise be technically qualified for social assistance and that is how people who are at work are still entitled to...

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: When somebody from an accession country who comes here to work and loses his or her job after a couple of months, does he or she lose the child benefit?

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: On a separate question, is there empirical evidence that these provisions are needed, either on the experience of other countries in the past or the experience of the EU, when East and West Germany united and suddenly 20 million impoverished East German became citizens of the European Union? Is there evidence that the so-called "benefit tourism" has taken place, apart from the hysteria...

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: No.

Seanad: Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2004: Committee and Remaining Stages. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: Tell Senator Wilson about him.

Seanad: Agency for the Irish Abroad: Motion. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I move: That Seanad Éireann condemns the decision by the Government not to set up the agency for the Irish abroad recommended in the Report of the Task Force on Emigration. As a matter of detail, may I presume the debate on the motion will continue until 7.17 p.m.?

Seanad: Agency for the Irish Abroad: Motion. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: I thank the Cathaoirleach. There are a couple of things to be said about emigration from Ireland. It was perhaps the greatest generator of excuses for failure that this country ever had. It was a failure that for most of the last 80 years, until about 20 years ago, we collectively tried to excuse and that was not confined to one particular political party. We collectively grabbed on to...

Seanad: Agency for the Irish Abroad: Motion. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: It is since Professor Lee produced his analysis that we developed the confidence in ourselves and the willingness to take responsibility for ourselves that produced the extraordinary economic performance. It was also due to the bedrock laid by the extraordinary achievements of the 1983-7 coalition Government in sustaining education in the teeth of a mess created by Fianna Fáil which produced...

Seanad: Agency for the Irish Abroad: Motion. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: The Minister of State might be missing something. I spent two summers abroad, working in north west London in Harlesden. Even as a young person and knowing I was coming home in September, one could not but notice the gradually ageing isolated Irish community. If one went to Mass on Sundays and saw them dressed up in the style of dress I associated with my youth, shiny Sunday suits, it was...

Seanad: Agency for the Irish Abroad: Motion. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: So did Deputy Stagg.

Seanad: Agency for the Irish Abroad: Motion. (24 Mar 2004)

Brendan Ryan: The Government will not support the agency because it will not provide the funding.

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