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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: I was not here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: I was not here and I am reluctant to be led by Deputy Ross.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: If we have agreed to invite it in, the question is that the office is not audited by the Comptroller and Auditor General. Whether we can invite it in and see whether it will come in is another matter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: It is not accountable to us, so presumably it is accountable to its own auditors.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Members have decided that we should write and invite it in, which we will do.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes. We will invite them in.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: I would make the point that it is audited but not by the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: The Deputy can ask those questions.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: The Comptroller and Auditor General may be able to say.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: There seems to be agreement that we invite them in and that we have the Department of Justice and Equality in on the same day. We will ask the clerk to act on that immediately.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes, on the same day. I am sorry about the lack of clarity in regard to the decision that was made at the last meeting. I will speak to the Vice Chairman about that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: He will have to go on another course.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Do not keep repeating that. The press is there. Next week's business is Vote 37 - chapter 10 - regularity of social welfare payments; chapter 11, control of supplementary welfare allowances; and chapter 12, farm assist and Social Insurance Fund 2013. As I said earlier, within that Vote there is the funding of MABS and the reporting procedures within it. With that agreed we move to today's...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes, we are in the process of organising that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: That will be available the week after next.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Not as yet but we have asked.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: Yes. As I said at the start of the meeting, the clerk will have the dossier made available to us. When the members receive it, maybe we will have an informal meeting about it again. It will then be made available to the Department officials before they come in. As part of that, there is a video which is available to members to look at. If members indicate to the clerk when they are...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: We can get a copy for the Deputy.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: It depends on the size of the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 May 2015)

John McGuinness: It is available. We have agreed to that. We move on to today's business and ask the witnesses to attend.

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