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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: At all. What about the Department of Health?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: We now have new information that there are ten to 11 other cases which are similar in some way to Vicky Phelan's. That is new information today. When did the Department become aware of these cases? Is it only in the past 24 hours?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Why did the Department not ask before?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I am asking a question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I presume that the question was asked following our meeting yesterday.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: When did Mr. O'Brien become aware of these cases? Has he been continually aware of these issues?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Mr. O'Brien was not aware before today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Before today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: It is extraordinary. While it is a subjective question, I found it amazing, albeit I believe him completely, that Mr. O'Brien found out about Vicky Phelan's case and the issues around it from the RTÉ website. The Minister for Health was aware of it before Mr. O'Brien. How did that make Mr. O'Brien feel?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Did Mr. O'Brien feel undermined?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: In the last 24 hours, the Taoiseach has said that since this commenced in 2008, there have been double eyes on every smear. That gives a sense of comfort. Obviously, two sets of people are looking at it. Are we completely sure that has been the case since 2008?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: The reason I ask is that the 2009 quality assurance document from CervicalCheck sets out at paragraph 5.2.2.2 the conditions under which there is a second check. It is long and I will not read it out in full. However, I ask Mr. O'Brien to refer to it. It does not say they are all checked. I presume that changed subsequently. It lists the conditions and sampling under which they should be...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Will Mr. O'Brien cross reference and make sure?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I know that. This is my last question. The last question relates to the bombshell, as I described it in the Dáil yesterday, when the Minister came in. He was obviously not aware of the new information regarding the approximately 1,500 women who have not been audited. For me and the public, it is incomprehensible that we had a national cancer control programme with its layers of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: I would like somebody to answer my question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: Can I have an answer to my question? I asked a question and all I want is a quick answer.

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Garda Investigations (3 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 101. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality the investigations that have been carried out by An Garda Síochána into the operations of Bray Garda station over the past ten years; the findings of these investigations; the consequences of same; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [19331/18]

Written Answers — Department of Justice and Equality: Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission Investigations (3 May 2018)

Alan Kelly: 102. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Justice and Equality if a civil servant in his Department made contact with a member of An Garda Síochána in connection with the events of 23 and 24 June 2017 when a civil servant in the Department of An Taoiseach was arrested outside Cabra Garda station; and if so, the details of the contact between 23 June 2017 and to date in 2018....

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