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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Yes, but outside of Covid compliance, Mr. Cullen is saying that as a general rule the authority would not announce inspections. When it is an unannounced inspection, do the officials find that people are a bit hostile? Does it make a difference if it is announced or unannounced?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: That is good.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: The authority would not be doing its job right if it was.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Yes. In Mr. Cullen's experience, when he says he needs to speak to the senior people who are there, is there a high level of compliance? If we take a hospital, obviously the authority is going to need to see senior clinicians. Does Mr. Cullen find there is any difficulty with that or are people happy to co-operate? Maybe "happy" is the wrong word. Are they content to co-operate?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: How does the follow-up happen after the notices are issued? It is all very well for the authority to tell an organisation it has to do it, but does it know someone is coming back to check in a week, two weeks, three weeks, a month or whatever?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Okay. I move to points 24 and 25 on staffing. Will the officials give me a breakdown of how many of their total staff count are dedicated to carrying out inspections? They can express that as a whole-time equivalent or whatever way they want. A 14% vacancy rate was alluded to. That is not a small number given the seriousness of the work. Will the officials give us a breakdown of what...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Does salary pose a barrier when seeking technical expertise?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: What is the difference? Is it career prospects and salary? Is it just the baseline salary and conditions? I am sure the conditions in the public service in respect of pensions, etc., are similar and comparable with a decent employer in the private sector. At what point does difference arise? What is Mr. O'Brien talking in terms of salary?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: What kind of qualifications do people have?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: If the starting salary is €35,000, what is a comparable salary in the private sector?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I can see how that is a deterrent.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Is it in the engineering space that the HSA is recruiting people?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: The HSA is looking for industrial chemists.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Are these all job vacancies in the private sector?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I thank the Chair and I will come in again, if that is all right.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: I do not want to speak too much about bullying, but there is an epidemic of it in the workplace and in many instances it is silently destroying people's lives. I am not certain what the answer to that is, beyond education systems and processes. It was not my intention to raise the issue of bullying in the workplace, but I will follow on from the points raised. There is a prevalence of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: It was probably more the case that they did not know how to deal with it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: What is the breakdown between the more traditional health and safety issues versus this issue, which we can safely call a non-traditional health and safety issue, although one that is very much part of the health and safety and welfare at work? I am not looking for a definite figure but rather Mr. O'Brien's sense on it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Yes, I would say there is. It is one of those things that maybe we did not talk about for a long time. There was probably a bit of stigma associated with it. Certainly from talking to my father, it was not the case that back in the eighties there was no bullying going on in the workplace. That is not the case. There just was nowhere to report it and a culture whereby people were expected...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Role and Operation of the Health and Safety Authority: Discussion (1 May 2024)

Louise O'Reilly: Content moderators, effectively.

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