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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: The matter was mentioned in paragraph 6 of Ms O'Sullivan's statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: It was mentioned in paragraph 6 of her submission.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: Yes. I will go back to Ms O'Loan. She stated: "GSOC cannot currently investigate complaints or allegations against the Commissioner." Is she saying that if it does not happen, the new legislation will be ineffective?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: Ms O'Loan also said: "Current law enables officers subject to complaint to veto attempts at an informal resolution process. There is a very low level of informal resolution here." Why is there a low level of complaints?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: It sounds like low level complaints should be dealt with. In every other job and position that people work in, 90% of complaints can often be dealt with and buried or got off the pitch, so to speak. Can Ms O'Loan give examples of places where there is a higher percentage of resolution? Are there examples of good practice available in terms of how low level complaints are treated?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: I have two final questions for Mr. Brady regarding key points 1 to 3, inclusive, of his presentation regarding the 1997 Freedom of Information Act. He states that countries throughout northern Europe have made their police services subject to freedom of information legislation without negative consequences. What countries does he mean?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: If I asked Mr. Brady to give examples of best practice, would he say the Nordic countries?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: Mr. Brady referred to the Garda press office in his submission. He said it was a bulwark against openness. Can he clarify that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight: Discussion (Resumed) (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: In the Technical Group, we call it the "Clare Daly syndrome".

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: On a point of order, it is important that the Secretary General accept that the members of the committee, including myself, will not accept any stonewalling or holding back. He should be answerable to the committee. Our legal advice is the opposite and it is important that he answers the questions-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: I do not think it is acceptable for a Secretary General to come in here and say that and hide behind section 12.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: I am very disappointed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: Is the Secretary General talking down the clock here?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: Is this a strategy of talking down the clock?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: No time for questions. He will not even answer the questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: It is not acceptable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: I am not accepting this. It is not acceptable that a senior civil servant would appear before the committee and carry on like that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: Talking down the clock.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: That is unacceptable.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Guerin Report: Department of Justice and Equality (28 May 2014)

Finian McGrath: A few simple questions-----

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