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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: No message is to go out here that there was confusion over extra space. There was no extra space. It was the exact same building - just a different way of measuring. The OPW did not recalibrate. It was advised to do so but it did not do so. The OPW did not discover that; the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General did. Is that not right? The OPW's internal processes did not...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Which colleague will tell me when this was discovered before the Comptroller and Auditor General discovered it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: What is Mr. Bourke's role?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When did Mr. Bourke ask for that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: What alerted him to look for an internal review?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Where or how did the Comptroller and Auditor General become aware of this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When was that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Bourke came in as a new person?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: As head of estate management.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: It was the media that alerted him to something being wrong.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: So it was the media that alerted him. It was not the OPW's internal controls that alerted him. It was the media.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: The OPW's internal controls did not alert him that something was wrong and that a mistake had been made?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Mr. Buckley spoke about this being a flagship building. I disagree with him and think that he should not have included that in his statement. What I would like have to seen in his statement were the issues outlined by the Comptroller and Auditor General - certainly the major issues with the figures being one of them. It would have been very easy for Mr. Buckley to do that rather than...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Which one?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is it the Intreo office?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is that the Department of Social Protection and Revenue or is it just Revenue around the corner? Mr. Buckley does not know. I might come back with specific questions separate from that. It is interesting because that building remained empty for a very long time. It was to be a flagship building in Galway with new modern hubs but it remained empty. Suddenly it was rescued by State rents...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: So it was a matter of net and gross.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Just one second. It was not a matter of two different measurements, but internal measurements – net and gross. As a result, extra money was also paid out on the rent. Is that it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Was that discovered by the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I think that arose from a sample of 20 cases that the Comptroller and Auditor General looked at. Did it not?

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