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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Health Issues: Department of Health and Health Service Executive (14 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: As Deputy Creighton missed the start of the meeting, she may not be aware that the joint committee will meet representatives of the Health Service Executive next Tuesday afternoon.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Health Issues: Department of Health and Health Service Executive (14 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Is Deputy Creighton satisfied with Mr. O'Brien's proposal?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Health Issues: Department of Health and Health Service Executive (14 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Perhaps Mr. Woods will address the issue raised regarding the financial position.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on Health Issues: Department of Health and Health Service Executive (14 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I sincerely thank the Minister for Health, Deputy Leo Varadkar, the Minister of State, Deputy Kathleen Lynch, Dr. Tony Holohan, Ms Tracey Conroy, Mr. Tony O'Brien, Ms Laverne McGuinness, Mr. Pat Healy, Mr. Liam Woods, Ms Anne O'Connor and Dr. Áine Carroll. I also thank Mr. Ray Mitchell for co-ordinating the committee's engagement with the Health Service Executive and for his courtesy....

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: This is a very important motion and I commend the Members who put it down. I was very proud to be a member of the Constitutional Convention, as Deputy Maureen O'Sullivan knows. At the core of our Constitution is an innate and explicit fundamental philosophy "to promote the common good ... so that the dignity and freedom of the individual may be assured". This philosophy and the protection...

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: That is not correct.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: While I am very fond of Deputy Healy, I know my city.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Like Deputy Healy, I am a grassroots politician who does not live in an ivory tower.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I note the Deputy is becoming cross. I am disappointed that we are having a row in the Chamber as he and I are good friends. Moneys have been allocated, even if they were insufficient. The tragedy is that social housing was not built for 14 years, during which Governments abdicated all responsibility. At least this Government is committed to a comprehensive housing policy.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I am aware that the Minister is a constituency colleague and rival of Deputy Healy, and the Minister of State represents Waterford, which is beside Tipperary. To be fair to the Minister and Minister of State, they have introduced a comprehensive housing strategy and they can be judged on its delivery and implementation. The Deputy should give the Government some credit for allocating money...

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: There is another matter we need to tackle. I make this point because Deputy Healy is half-goading me. We have HIQA inspecting facilities in the health service, but who is inspecting some of the rented properties in the cities, in particular, Cork? Some of them that I have been in are appalling and the amount of rent being asked of the tenant is evil.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Deputy Healy did not listen to my contribution.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I am advocating - I am coming to it with a genuine position - that we should put this to another constitutional convention and go to a committee of these Houses-----

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: -----where we can have the type of scrutiny we have with legislation and where we can have a proper engagement. I fully accept this is window-dressing in here. I volunteered to speak on this motion because, as Deputy Healy can tell, I am passionate about the rights and entitlements of people. I will argue the political points with the Deputy but the fundamentals are this is a House of the...

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Would Deputy Catherine Murphy say that again?

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I am coming to that.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I was posing a rhetorical question. What does one do? One empowers people to change the culture. That means one puts in place a policy, for example-----

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I am not liberal nor conservative. I am a people's person. That is where I am coming from.

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I do not label myself liberal or conservative. Some people might on the basis of certain things I am doing but I consider myself to be balanced. One empowers people. One changes the culture. To do that, one takes the policy platform that is Healthy Ireland, out to the people and one engages with them. Deputy Pringle may disagree with me but our fundamentals will get us to the point in...

An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú is Tríocha ar an mBunreacht (Cearta Geilleagracha, Comhdhaonnacha agus Cultúir) 2014: An Dara Céim [Comhaltaí Príobháideacha]: - Thirty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution (Economic, Social and Cultural Rights) Bill 2014: Second Stage [Private Members] (19 May 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: It is called empowering people as well. I will conclude on this because my time is nearly up. In enshrining what one wants to do, the most important point is to get a debate going on it. In my opinion, we barely tipped on it in the Constitutional Convention and it was probably the second best weekend of the convention. The reason was we empowered and educated people who did not really...

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