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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Irish Business and Employers Confederation (19 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: That would be beneficial. I thank Mr. O'Brien and Mr. Brady. We very much appreciate them coming in today and taking the time to give their opening statements and address our questions. It was very helpful for all the members. As there is no further business, that concludes our proceedings today. The meeting is adjourned until 9 a.m. tomorrow.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Business of Select Committee (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Apologies have been received from Deputies Colm Brophy and Stephen Donnelly. Before we bring in our witnesses, we will go into private session to deal with housekeeping issues.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Before we begin, I remind members and witnesses to turn off their mobile phones. The interference from mobile phones affects the sound quality and transmission of the meeting. I welcome Dr. Tom McDonnell, senior economist from the Nevin Economic Research Institute, NERI. With him is Mr. Liam Berney, who is an industrial officer with the Irish Congress of Trade Unions, ICTU. I thank both...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I thank Dr. McDonnell. IBEC was before the committee yesterday and its view is that our tax base is too narrow and that we have too high a marginal tax rate. What is NERI's view on that? Dr. McDonnell mentioned that child care is a major barrier to employment and I agree with him. Does he think the Government child care scheme will go some way to improving the situation?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I call Deputy Calleary.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I call Deputy Boyd Barrett, followed by Deputy Eamon Ryan. I ask Deputy Boyd Barrett to confine his contribution to five minutes because we have many witnesses. We can come back to him again later in the meeting.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I thank Dr. McDonnell. I propose that-----

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: If he would not mind, the Deputy might ask that in moment. To be time efficient, I will ask Mr. Berney to make his opening statement after that. Deputies Lahart and Chambers will then be next. Deputy Doherty can ask his questions of both witnesses. Deputy Calleary can also contribute.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I thank Dr. McDonnell and invite Mr. Berney to read his opening statement, after which the remaining members can ask questions of both witnesses.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I thank Mr. Berney. Deputy Lahart is next and he may ask his questions to both the witnesses, if that is okay.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: We are trying to confine contributions to five minutes.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I shall resist the urge myself. I ask Deputy Lahart to please continue.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I urge the Deputy to move on.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Five minutes have elapsed and we have a lot of business to discuss.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: No.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I thank the Deputy.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I thank Mr. Berney.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I thank Dr. McDonnell. Deputy Chambers has five minutes.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: What is the at-risk of poverty rate?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Ex-ante Scrutiny of Budget 2018: Nevin Economic Research Institute, Irish Congress of Trade Unions, Irish Tax Institute and Chambers Ireland (20 Sep 2017)

Josepha Madigan: It is all about moderation.

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