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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It is exactly what he is doing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The Minister is very sensitive and he is right. If I were him I would be very sensitive about it because I never saw anybody preserve privilege as he is doing. All he is doing is preserving the rich and making them richer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It is not rubbish.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I can.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I do know what I am talking about.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: No, it would not. That is rubbish. The Minister is the one talking rubbish because he is talking about payments that do nothing with the farm.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is incorrect. On the basis of the Department's figures, there is a 30% difference approximately. The higher the unitary payment goes, the higher the average farm size goes. It ranges between 32 and 44 hectares other than for farms-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: A figure of 30% is a huge difference.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: That is true on average.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It is.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It was a point of information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The Minister is not giving factually correct information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Update on CAP and CFP: Discussion with Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The Minister should give correct information. If he checked his own records-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sale of Coillte's Harvesting Rights: Discussion with Society of Irish Foresters (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The presentation was very comprehensive and it is very hard to argue with it. To be quite honest, at this stage, all of the evidence from all sectors of the industry is quite simply that it would be ludicrous to sell off the forest crop. Mr. Magner has outlined that this is multifaceted, in terms of the interests of recreational users, sawmills, users of forest material and the preservation...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sale of Coillte's Harvesting Rights: Discussion with Society of Irish Foresters (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The vast majority of timber coming on the market is public timber as the amount of private forest timber coming on the market is very small. Am I right in thinking that there is an electronic auction every month at which each timber mill bids? However, the five big milling companies are all regionally based so effectively Coillte ensures that timber is coming up in every region all the time...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sale of Coillte's Harvesting Rights: Discussion with Society of Irish Foresters (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Putting it simply, a holistic view was taken of the country's timber milling industry, including the forest crop. When it was put on the market, not only was Coillte looking at its own interests, but it also considered the sustainability of the mills. I have one final question on this matter. Am I right in thinking that if, because of this overcapacity in the mills, one broke the forest...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sale of Coillte's Harvesting Rights: Discussion with Society of Irish Foresters (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The discussion at the end, which goes way beyond the sale of the crop, is very important. There are many complexities in the forestry industry. I understand one of the main sources of need, aside from the residue issue from the timber mills, is that there is a lot of pine that is not suitable for saw milling. It was used as a first crop on bogs because the Sitka spruce would not grow on...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sale of Coillte's Harvesting Rights: Discussion with Society of Irish Foresters (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: It was not our plan. The Deputy should check the four year plan. There was no commitment to sell State assets in that plan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sale of Coillte's Harvesting Rights: Discussion with Society of Irish Foresters (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: There was a commitment to look at their value, that was all. The troika has said time and time again that the Government can change anything in the plan as long as the bottom line is right.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Sale of Coillte's Harvesting Rights: Discussion with Society of Irish Foresters (7 May 2013)

Éamon Ó Cuív: While Deputy McNamara raises a valid issue, he is comparing chalk and cheese in that thinnings, particularly first thinnings, are of no interest to major sawmills. My experience of forestry since before Coillte was established has been that sawmills will not have difficulty obtaining 10,000 or 20,000 cu. m of timber per annum, especially if they are seeking thinnings. However, most of the...

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