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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: That is not what I asked.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: So individuals were briefed, trained and educated.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Is Mr. Colgan disappointed that the educational process failed?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Is Mr. Colgan disappointed that the individuals who were trained did not measure up?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Were these individuals from the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Who would have been involved - and at what level - from the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: At what level did that person operate?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: No, it is a question for the SEUPB, because it trained them.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Would the SEUPB not have requested a person at a particular grade?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: So the SEUPB did not mind who was appointed as long as someone turned up to the show.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: And the SEUPB does not check whether that person has the ability to manage a project?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: So the SEUPB relies mainly on assurances.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: I want to know what happened back then.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Back then the SEUPB took it for granted that the people who ran the Department would have the common sense to select the person best qualified to manage this type of project.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Is Mr. Griffin of the view that the individual chosen was the best person for the job? Will he indicate whether it was one person or a number of people?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: What about this particular project?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: What grade did the person hold?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: Is that the basic or entry level?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: That is fine. My next question relates to that matter. Will Mr. Griffin indicate what qualifications the person held?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 90 of the Northern Ireland Audit Office and the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General
The Bytel Project
(16 Apr 2015)

John McGuinness: That is the difference between what Mr. Griffin's Department does and what we do here. The Comptroller and Auditor General does not presume; he is obliged to deal with facts and figures. That is what causes us to meet here every Thursday. I do not want to presume; I want to know the qualifications held by the person involved.

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