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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Does Mr. Sheahan have an idea of how much staff power is tied up in that or how many cases have been dealt with?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Mr. Sheahan can get that information, though.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: If that could be furnished to the committee, I think it would be helpful. I note also, regarding discipline for the members found in breach of the fixed-charge notice system, which is a slightly separate issue but is obviously linked to the same system, that over the course of the past six years only nine gardaí have been disciplined in respect of fixed-charge notices, six of them of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: That is precisely why I raised the issue under information technology. Claims were made in the opening statement about successful ICT projects.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Much of the work done by this committee and a great deal of public discourse has centred on the fact that the absence of good IT systems in An Garda Síochána has generated a significant cost for the organisation in terms of prosecutions. While the issue of discipline is a separate matter, I raised it under the IT heading for that reason.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: The Garda has a similar problem with the homicide figures in that the analysts flagged 16 categories of death. This excessively complicated approach to categorisation caused IT problems. What is being done to address that issue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: No, but what is the Garda doing about it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Some of the complexity is not attributable to legislation. The 16 death categories on PULSE that caused a problem were flagged by Garda analysts. This is perhaps a simpler example but it involves 16 rather than hundreds of categories. In the case of a death, this is too many and the issue was flagged a long time ago. What has been done to address that complication in the IT system?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Are there still 16 categories for deaths?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: There are still 16 categories for deaths on PULSE.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Mr. Nugent stated that An Garda Síochána had improved, with personnel speaking up and being encouraged to come forward and so forth. How many gardaí have spoken up? How many protected disclosures are in the system? Does Mr. Nugent know?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Does he have a ballpark figure?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Mr. Nugent made a claim that the organisation had been enriched by people speaking up. He must, therefore, have idea of the content of what they said or the areas where improvements were made.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: How many people who have made protected disclosures are on sick leave?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Will Mr. Nugent get that figure for the committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: While confidentiality is important, we discussed previously with Mr. Nugent how absences are recorded. This matter has been before the courts on at least two occasions and An Garda Síochána has been required to pay out large sums of money to gardaí in cases of work-related absence. There have been at least two such cases in the past month or two. In one recent case, a garda...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: When is the new system likely to be delivered?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: The system would not necessarily ensure that someone was accurately returned. Last year, 1,050 gardaí were absent for prolonged periods in excess of 28 days. Of these, 317 were defined as an injury received while on duty, 713 were defined as ordinary illness and 83 were defined as critical illness. The courts have stated in several instances that some cases of leave that were recorded...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: Unfortunately, as a result of the systems problem, some of the cases have ended up in court. Given that problems with the system have been identified in this regard, is Mr. Nugent aware that it is not just random individuals? It has been highlighted that this may be a systems problem inside the organisation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Garda Oversight and Accountability: Discussion (25 Apr 2018)

Clare Daly: So it is being looked at.

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