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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I ask Mr. Mac MathĂșna to conclude.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Could Professor Barry argue that had he heard Mr. White's testimony on Tuesday, when figures were presented to this committee on Responsible Retailing of Alcohol Ireland's inspections of, court cases and challenges against its members, and coming back to Ms Costello's point that self-regulation does not work in the tobacco industry-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I gather he is an independent chair or is that too much of-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Professor Barry said in his presentation that minimum pricing would lessen health inequalities, yet some would argue, and have argued on this committee, that the introduction of minimum pricing would affect, more than anyone else, the most lowly paid, the unemployed and those depending on State aid.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: If Professor Barry had his choice, would he envisage labelling going the route of tobacco in terms of graphics on bottles? Could it be put onto a pint glass or a wine glass?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Does Mr. Cribben accept that they have made significant progress?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: They are not here, but could they argue in defence that, given the prism of Mr. Cribben's viewpoint, "he would say that anyway"?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Many of Mr. Cribben's members fought against it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: They did not walk voluntarily with their hands up in full compliance. That is the case in this instance also.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: To go back to Mr. Cribben's comment in the presentation on head 15 concerning environmental health officers, in the event that the Government does not implement the measure on structural separation, is he calling for an enhanced role for environmental health officers? How would this work?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Would Ms Jones have a glass partition? I also asked this question last week.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: No, but it is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Ms Jones did not cost her proposals on page 9.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: No, but in fairness Ms Jones went to the trouble of producing them professionally.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Does Ms Jones mean the large retailers?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I made a complaint on two occasions. In fairness to Ms Jones, I have encountered what is depicted in the first illustration on page 13. I rang Mr. White's office and within 48 hours it was gone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: The bottom photograph.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Ms Jones might refrain from mentioning locations because people are not here to defend themselves.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: This one was taken last Christmas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: General Scheme of Public Health (Alcohol) Bill 2015: Discussion (Resumed) (26 Mar 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Does Ms Jones think we have too many off-licences?

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