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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: From an accounting perspective, I can fully understand how one would and could label it as non-Exchequer funding sources. From a financial or accounting perspective, that is fine. We know there are multiple income streams, separate from State funding, for institutes of technologies and more so for universities. The difficulty, as Teachta Kelly said, is that there is an added liability to...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: We should.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: If the Chairman would ask the Comptroller and Auditor General to print out a copy of every organisation in which there were procurement problems, he could probably fill the room with paper.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Why have they not done that? Have they given any reason?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: On that point-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Can I hold on that issue for one second? If they have not given any reason and they have essentially ignored us and just said that they have not done it-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: At this point we are not aware of it. Can we write to them to find out why?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Was Cork one of the ones that put up a robust defence that they should not have to consolidate?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: We have no way-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Normally when we hope for lighter correspondence, we get more.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: In any event we will see what will happen. The report we got from the secretariat on third level issues is helpful. However, five more have been handed to us today.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: The Kildare and Wicklow ETB is not on it, the Crowe Horwath report is not on, and it the foundations we have just discussed and procurement in the third level sector are not on it. Those issues can be added to the very long list.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: It was not a cost-benefit review.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: I share the Chairman's exasperation at the responses we received so far. I am beginning to wonder if there is any point in even proceeding as none of the questions we ask will see answers of any substance materialise. There was a very cavalier approach from Mr. Watt and Mr. Ó Foghlú. They seemed to shrug their shoulders as the post-project reviews have not been published and that...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Can I first of all say that I stand over everything I said before we went into private session. It is my personal opinion. It is not the opinion of every member here, but I have given my opinion. Giving us huge volumes of information does not equate to proper public accountability. What Mr. Watt seems to miss is that we have not got the information which we need. Yes, we can welcome that...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Mr. Watt can answer it again because I have asked it. I would like a number please.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: There are ten which have not been published. How many have been carried out in the area of education?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: The Department has not carried out one.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Why not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: This is where we can understandably be frustrated. I accept what the Comptroller and Auditor General said when he gave the context. If I am reading this right, and I want to be fair to everybody, there was opposition from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform in the past to publishing the post-project reviews. We then had an analysis, review or examination by the International...

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