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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Were they sitting back, waiting for the State to intervene and the taxpayer to cough up the cash?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Mulligan knows my concerns about the make-up of NBI, the structure of its board and so on. We cannot undo that now. I have articulated some of that again today. It has been allowed to retrospectively reduce the original target from 8,000 to zero passed in January 2021. It missed its original targets, reaching half, at best, by the end of this year. It has negotiated remedial targets,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is Mr. Mulligan concerned by the five facts I have just outlined?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I welcome the fact that there are some sanctions, however small. I take the point that it is only paid for what is rolled out. I said last year that a Minister told me in the Convention Centre Dublin that there were no sanctions.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: With regard to the contingency fund of €500 million in the context of the broadband plans, has any of that been paid out or used to date?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: How much has been applied for?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is it less than €10 million?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know that from the briefing note provided by the Department. I can see where that is in relation to excess profit, the sale of NBI, network deployment, etc. There is an ask for some of the fund at the moment and there is a potential draw on it. On the encroachment fund, there is €130 million in that fund. My understanding of the fund is that there is the intervention area but...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Is Mr. Mulligan confirming that no money, not even an amount in the thousands, has been paid out?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Would a figure of €45,000 have been paid out?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Specifically with regard to the encroachment fund------

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: My apologies; I should have asked that question in a different way. Is there an issue relating to 45,000 homes?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: No, I am asking about the fact that Eir has now serviced certain homes-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: -----that are within the broadband area.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Eir.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: The service could be duplicated in the intervention area, in that it is being served by fibre by Eir and now the broadband plan will service it as well.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I know that, but Mr. Mulligan and I are both aware that if the premises have been passed, the opportunity is there to connect them. Mr. Mulligan cannot flip over the selling point the Department has been putting forward in terms of talking about premises that have been passed. If it is passed, it is passed. There is the opportunity for the-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: To pick up on that, is Mr. Ó hÓbáin saying that NBI may not build in some of the intervention area?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I hear what Mr. Ó hÓbáin is saying. I am asking him a specific question. Is Mr. Ó hÓbáin confirming that NBI may not build parts of the network in some of the intervention areas where it is now being serviced by a commercial operator?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Let me cut to the chase. Was it not presented when this contract was being signed? The rules of the game were that that was the intervention area.

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