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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I welcome everyone to this morning's meeting. We have received apologies from Deputies Carroll MacNeill and Verona Murphy. If attending in the committee room, members are asked to exercise personal responsibility and protect themselves and others against the risk of contracting Covid-19. Members of the committee attending remotely must do so from within the precincts of the Parliament due...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy and invite Mr. Griffin to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Thank you Mr. Griffin. Deputy Devlin is first, with 15 minutes. He will be followed by Deputy Dillon.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I ask Mr. Nugent to respond briefly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I ask Mr. Nugent to respond but to do so in such a way as not to prejudice any matters that may arise.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy Catherine Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Mr. Ó hÓbáin should be brief.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: To tease out the question fully, how many new-investor representatives will there be on the board if 80% is bought?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: That leaves three representing 20%.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: They would not have a say?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Does that not mean vulnerability in terms of the control of the board?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: The Minister is a big investor. The Minister is putting in taxpayers’ money.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: He is putting in 87% or 88% of the cash.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Who are the two independent directors?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: Were they appointed by the Minister?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: NBI, where the private investors have a majority of eight to one, appoints the two independent investors.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: That would question their independence.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am not doubting that. I am referring to the fact that the board of NBI makes the decision. That is the only point I am making. I am not calling into question the integrity of the two people. I am just saying I would have concerns about the arrangement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I think a figure is provided in that regard.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Environment, Climate and Communications
2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General - Chapter 9: Implementation of the National Broadband Plan
(13 Oct 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. Griffin. The figure for next year is about 80,000 to 85,000, to answer the specific question for the Deputy.

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