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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I have concerns and I think it would be a matter of public interest to put them in the public domain-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: -----so that they do receive the appropriate level of inquiry. It would be great if all the inquiries came back and definitively outlined there was nothing to see here, but prudence demands that we go there. This is not a vexatious attempt by me to spread falsities. Does PMDS exist in the Department of Justice and Equality?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Can Mr. O'Driscoll briefly outline how that works for senior executive officers or people like that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Does it automatically go to more senior people and ultimately, perhaps to Mr. O'Driscoll himself or to a principal officer for sign-off, to say that is grand and their supervisor-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Is there scoring involved?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Would the results be relevant to increments?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Would the results be relevant to promotional prospects? If an executive officer was applying for a job as an assistant principal, would someone assessing that application go back through the PMDS and see that the executive officer was satisfactory in the past five years and that is good?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I have no doubt about that but would it form part of it, in terms of-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: -----the Public Appointments Service?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: External candidates would not have PMDS because it is predominantly in the public sector.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I appreciate that the Department will come back to me in writing. Are the Department or Irish Prison Service management in Longford aware of allegations that PMDS exists in name only within prisons, with scoring being picked at random and often subjectively determined by the relevant governor, rather than informed by the proper processes laid down when it was introduced and with ongoing...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I do not want to lose the point here.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: My wording stands.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I said if the Irish Prison Service and the Department assert that the operation of the mess is not under the control of the Irish Prison Service, this would perhaps constitute a breach of rules 30 and 31 of the Prison Rules of 2007 in regard to the employment of prisoners. It is also alleged to me that in excess of €2 million has been spent on mess facilities over the past number of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: That is okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I accept that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Absolutely. I said that myself at the beginning.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: We have covered the ground fairly well and will be finished in ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality
(4 Apr 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I am going to get to them.

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