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Seanad: Technological Universities Bill 2015: Report Stage (21 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I just wanted to clarify it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: For clarification, before we go into full discussion, I know that SAFE 2 is a system that the Government has chosen to set up and is not an international system. It might be useful for Mr. Duggan to specify exactly what the difference is between, say, the passport and driving licence-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I hope there will be a second round of question, but I will try to focus. Others have spoken about a person having no more and no less than what is required to satisfy the Minister as to his or her identity. Perhaps the delegates might specify why, for example, a passport or a driving licence cannot satisfy the Minister as to a person's identity? Is it not really the case that this is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: It is crucial to get this right. In the Data Protection Bill which is before the Houses huge discretion is given to Ministers to provide for exemptions from the GDPR following consultation with the Data Protection Commissioner. If, following that consultation, Ministers are to disregard data commission infrastructure, we will have to be very concerned about the GDPR. It is crucial to get...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Could the witness also deal with the data-sharing agreements, which I understand is the current basis used between the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection? I understand concern has been expressed that there have been legal lapses where that data-sharing agreement has been in place and there have been gaps when it has been...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Did she not initiate the investigation following the responses?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Is that not indicative of a response?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Will it be legal to deny a service to someone if he or she does not produce the card or does not have one? That does happen, and it is a key question. The 2017 proposal, the new Bill, extends the voluntary capacity-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: What if a non-specified body refused to furnish a service because it was not satisfied as to identity?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: When the witness speaks about the difference between compulsory and mandatory, it is very disingenuous to say that persons whose child benefits will be denied, who will potentially lose his or her pensions and will potentially be denied SUSI grants, which affects the opportunity to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I apologise for interrupting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I have heard a number of quite credible reports from people who have received public services cards in the post but do not recall having applied for or sought a public services card. Perhaps Mr. Duggan might comment on these.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: It would be useful to get a breakdown of the number of cards which were issued.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: A necessary and proportionate test is relevant here as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Reference was made to the two-day delay before a card goes out but I had mentioned that people have received public services cards who do not recall having engaged actively in any process. That happened in December in particular. Perhaps Mr. Duggan could clarify whether it is one of those circumstances he mentioned earlier?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: It was not interaction with the Department but a request for a public services card.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: For example, somebody may have applied for another payment but may not have actively engaged in the SAFE 2 process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I know PSCs were issued to people who were already in receipt of payments.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I know the Department would engage with people but were any PSCs issued without people having known that they were engaging in the SAFE 2 process?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection: Public Services Card: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Feb 2018)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I had also-----

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