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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I welcome Mr. Tony O'Brien, director general of the HSE. I thank him and all of his staff for the work they do on our behalf in hospitals and primary care centres. I also acknowledge the tremendous work being done in the health system.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Mr. O'Brien means that he is returning to us.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Fair enough.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: The only occasion on which officials are not permitted to speak is during consideration of the Estimates. Those are not my rules, Deputy Kelleher.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy has one minute left.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I will chair the meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Every member is treated fairly and in accordance with the rules of the meeting. I would be happy to be judged on that. The Minister of State has the floor and six other people have indicated their wish to speak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Is that not being lost in translation? If somebody has a long-term illness card or a GP card-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: It can be every bit as good as a medical card.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: That is being lost in translation. Where is the deficiency in that case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: Notwithstanding all that Mr. O'Brien has said, we have known about this demographic problem - that we are going to live longer and will have an increased population - for some time. In the past we spent money on health - we threw money into health - yet we still had waiting times in emergency departments, we still had an absence of step-down beds and we still had an issue with routine...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I have six other people who wish to speak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I have eight other people who wish to speak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: There are nine other members who want to speak.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I will take the following three speakers in the order they indicated to me – Senator Colm Burke, Deputy Regina Doherty and Deputy Peter Fitzpatrick. Senator Burke has three minutes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: It was question No. 23.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: The last speaker listed is Deputy Dowds.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I will hand back to the Minister of State and the officials. Deputies McLellan, Byrne and Moloney are next, and then Senator Thomas Byrne.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: To be fair, it is not only an issue for the Department of Health.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Quarterly Update on Health Issues: Discussion (12 Feb 2015)

Jerry Buttimer: I should point out that in the coming weeks the committee will undertake work on the cost of drugs and hi-tech medicines.

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