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Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: On the matter of the step-down facilities, I assure the Deputy that this is an important issue which is receiving active consideration. A joint working group of the Probation Service and the Irish Prison Service gave consideration to the option of establishing an open centre for women. Rather than recommending the development of an open centre for women, it concluded that a more practical...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: The Deputy referred to it as a step-down facility. It is important in the context of those who are in prison that we move away from what is, in many respects, a cliff edge where a person who is in prison for a defined period is suddenly set free. It is important that there be a level of engagement by way of preparing people for coming out of prison and into the community. That is the type...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: The Prison Service is independent as far as the examination and processing of such protected disclosures is concerned. The best way to deal with them is by way of independent examination and assessment.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: No, but I do not believe it requires an extra allocation or the voting of particular money. If money is required, I am sure it will not be an issue that would present an obstacle. There are a small number of protected disclosures and it is important that they are dealt with efficiently and in a manner that ensures that those who make them are fully accommodated. I do not see money issues...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I look forward to the report and I assure the Chairman it will receive early consideration in the Department.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I am keen to ensure the processing of the Judicial Council Bill. It is currently before the House. In the Estimates, there is a token allocation which will allow for the establishment of the subhead. This is an issue with which the committee can be of assistance and ensure we make progress on it later in the year. As for the matter of the digital audio recording programme, the first...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I am happy to do that Chairman. However, I must add that the Courts Service is giving these matters consideration too. Obviously, its input will not only be important but welcome, including the recommendation that an independent review be carried out of the disposition of the Courts Service towards the interaction with wards and their families. It is important these issues are dealt with...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I am happy to convey the Chairman's views directly to the Courts Service at an early opportunity following this meeting.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: On Forensic Science Ireland, FSI, and its merger with the Garda Technical Bureau, a committee is involved in this and its work is ongoing with a view to the merger having taken place prior to the opening date of the laboratory in 2020 or 2021. The new facility in County Kildare will be managed by the OPW. It is one of the most important pieces of infrastructure currently under construction....

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I will get that for the Deputy. I did not advert to the SAVI question. That group has completed its work and I expect that I will be able to make a recommendation to Government on that in coming weeks. I am awaiting specific details on the Office for Internet Safety and will pass them on to the Deputy.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: The cost is in the region of €200,000.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: As I said, a sum of €3 million has been allocated for that under D10. I expect that would happen on the commencement of Part 8 of the Act, once the decision was made by the Minister for Health. It is not a decision that I will make. I am not now in a position to provide an exact timeframe for the implementation of this Act. There are several complex strands to its work. However,...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: I will be happy to revert to the Deputy with the details of the competition that is under way for the specialist people who are being recruited and the cost of this.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: On direct provision, the outturn for the Reception and Integration Agency was over €67 million which reflected the increase in the number of persons applying for protection in the State and also the number of persons who continued to live in State provided accommodation. It is, of course, after a steady decline in the years 2008 to 2014, inclusive. In 2017 the allocation was...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: Obviously, we have to be conscious of numbers. There has in recent times been an increase in numbers for whom we will be required to cater having regard to our national and international obligations.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: No.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: It is not a fixed amount. It is dependent on the numbers of persons coming into the system who require to be accommodated in keeping with our national and international obligations.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: As far as service providers are concerned, a payment is made in accordance with the contract for the provision of the premises. Presumably, costs will rise from time to time, given the numbers of persons involved. It is not necessarily a fixed sum in accordance with a lease or contractual arrangement. There are other items of expenditure that will arise from time to time.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: Yes.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Revised)
Vote 25 - Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission (Revised)
Vote 41 - Policing Authority (Revised)
(18 Apr 2018)

Charles Flanagan: No.

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