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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: I am sorry. Senator Devine is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: My perspective on this is that we should introduce a carbon dividend model whereby any revenue raised is returned to the citizen on a per capitabasis. We held a very interesting workshop in the audiovisual room here during the summer. We brought in Kathryn Harrison, a leading academic from Canada, to share Canada's experience; Cara Augustenborg, from UCD's school of environmental studies;...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Would it be fair to say, then, that the ESRI is broadly supportive of this and, if I am reading those sentences correctly, that it is an appropriate policy measure? It just needs what the ESRI said in those sentences.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: It is an intelligent economic approach.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: It is also socially justified.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: There is an awkwardness to this whole session because that is exactly true. Professor John Fitzgerald said this is a political question. The allocation of resources is ultimately our job, and it is very difficult for Department officials in a sense. I wish we had the Minister for Finance here because this is politics at its core, but we have the Society of St. Vincent de Paul represented,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: I absolutely agree. There is such a job ahead of us and its scale is beyond compare. The revenues from the carbon tax will not do it all. We will have to use a large amount of other money targeting exactly what Dr. Keilthy said. She seems to be saying we could raise the fuel allowance as a mechanism of using the revenues from a carbon tax and as one tool to tackle fuel poverty and poverty...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Can Mr. Kenny provide me with a list of the 66 people who engaged in the consultation process? Will he show me their submissions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Could Mr. Kenny give that to me tomorrow?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: I thank Mr. Kenny. The Department of Finance was asked to consider the two options set out by the committee. One was to return revenue raised in grant payments and other carbon SEAI-type measures, which is what some colleagues here supported, and the other option was the carbon dividend model. The Department presented in the consultation process nine options. Why did it do that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: It was a 16-page document, roughly, was it not? I cannot remember. I remember reading it. I was reading it again-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: There was no explanation of the carbon dividend model in it. There was no sharing of the ESRI analysis or the international experience. This is a very complex subject that people are very sceptical about. Why did the Department include no explanation of one of those nine options which was one that we specifically wanted it to consider and which the Taoiseach supported at the time? Why did...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: There is one line in the whole document.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: There are 16 pages of analysis yet no analysis on one of the core questions we asked the Department and which the consultation was about, which was to inform members of the public who know nothing about this idea or concept or the detailed analysis the ESRI has carried out on it. It looked and read like the Department of Finance wanted to kill this first pace because, as Mr. Kenny says, it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: I have done worse.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: I do not mean to be in any way critical of the Department or its officials because, as I said, this is a political matter in a sense. I must say, however, that this was a "hands up who would like a grant?" type of consultation and survey, coming back and saying the worst option would be a carbon dividend, whereas no analysis or presentation of the options was done and in fact a whole range...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Carbon Tax: Discussion (25 Sep 2019)

Eamon Ryan: Yes. It is of no use. I am glad the SVP and ESRI are supportive of the broad approach. I hope the Minister for Finance and other parties whose representatives have left the room, that have been the main advocates of an alternative approach are listening. I would love to hear anyone else answer the argument that this dividend approach is the best income inequality and poverty reduction...

An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (1 Oct 2019)

Eamon Ryan: I am trying to avoid legislative work here but it seems to me that there is a lacuna in our law. The Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, BAI, seems unwilling to take action against Communicorp which has recently made a decision that certain members of the media, namely Mr. Tom Lyons and Mr. Ian Kehoe from currency.ie will be restricted from taking part in any radio programmes on its stations....

Ceisteanna - Questions: Taoiseach's Meetings and Engagements (1 Oct 2019)

Eamon Ryan: 7. To ask the Taoiseach if he will report on his recent meeting with Prime Minister Johnson. [38502/19]

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