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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Yes, but before that the Arts Council had nothing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: So the Department approved at a certain level. It was mentioned earlier the Ms Kennelly is finishing up in June. It was incorrectly stated that the proposal was not put forward. A request was put in by the Arts Council for a five-year term and the Minister proposed a shorter term to Ms Kennelly which she did not agree to. Why did she not want to continue? Was there a difference in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: In her role does Ms Kennelly feel she has the confidence from the Minister?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Does he have confidence in Ms Kennelly?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: It is a feeling, so Ms Kennelly will know herself.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Did the legal case commence in 2021?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: So there are two ongoing and two more to come. That is at total of 21 organisations. Deputy Cleere asked whether there is any conflict of interest between those organisations and the Arts Council and it was said there is not. To be clear, 21 organisations have been involved. Is there any conflict of interest between the Arts Council and any of those 21 organisations?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: The court case started in 2022 and the lawyers acting for the Arts Council said the council had a very good case. Obviously that is what any lawyer would say to his or her client. How much has the court case cost so far?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: What is the expected costs for the Arts Council?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Mr. O'Sullivan did not answer my question. What are the expected costs?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Can Mr. O'Sullivan give a ballpark figure?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: What is the expected timeframe?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Is the Department supportive of the legal case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Is the Department supportive of it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Is the Department supportive of it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: Is that unusual?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: At the moment is the Department supportive of it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: The costs will come back to the Department.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: This is taxpayers' money.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Arts, Media, Communications, Culture and Sport: Arts Council Grant Management IT System: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Garret Ahearn: In those discussions, has the Secretary General expressed concerns about taking legal action, the cost of legal action and the impact that has on taxpayers' money?

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