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Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Welcome, Mr. O'Connor and Mr. Walsh. How many engagements in total have the PwC complete for the Financial Regulator, the Central Bank, financial institutions, the Government agencies, between '08 and up to '13, and I suppose, up to date? How many engagements has PwC been involved in in relation to the banks, either on behalf of the Financial Regulator, the Government, the Central Bank, the...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Well, specifically, your department, what's your remit? Are ye corporate services-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: But, specifically, we'll say on ... we'll say, the ... take just the Project Atlas programme, right - what would have been the type of teams, the size of teams you would have had involved?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: And at partner level, manager level, what would they break down at?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: And the type of fees that you would've earned for Project Atlas, we'll say, for those three ... what was the total fees that ye earned for Project Atlas?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: €1.6 million?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: -----50,000, so in total, your total there would be-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Sorry.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: €2.4 million. And that was the total fees for the overall Project Atlas, for all the work on Project Atlas.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: For PwC work. And the ... the ... going back on the Project Atlas itself, right, you ... in your witness statement, Mr. O'Connor, you said that ... that, "The PwC scenarios [analysed were] based on a number of assumptions and other than [Irish Nationwide they], had not been reviewed by [the] management in the Institutions." Why were Irish Nationwide provided with a copy of the assumptions...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: And this was in Project Atlas 2.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: And three.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Just two.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: And the only difference between two and three-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: With JLL, to come up with valuations. So, we'll say, Atlas 1 was a desktop general overview just dealing purely with Anglo and Irish Nationwide. Am I correct?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: And ILP.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: Okay. Atlas 2 was where, effectively, you brought in all the financial institutions - all six - and you looked at two stress case scenarios in there that you wouldn't have had looked at in Atlas 1. So were in ... and this is ... we're dealing with Atlas 2. And Atlas 3, you brought in Jones Lang-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (9 Sep 2015)

Kieran O'Donnell: -----to look at valuations.

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