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Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: I'm encouraging the Senator just to ask the question. Whether it is a matter of regret or not is something that you ... you can disclose, Mr. McDonnell.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Bank of Ireland booklet ... you'd have to give notification prior to the ... if it's just a statement from it you want to use Senator Barrett, I can allow you to read it out and maybe ask Mr. Murphy or Mr. McDonnell to comment upon it.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Senator, I'm going to have to .... you need to reference the document in full for me. But I would advise members very, very strongly that if they are going to be introducing documents that are not on the core listing for this that there is plenty of notification to be given to witnesses in advance because the full context of what is actually being delivered is not being given to the witness....

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay ... if that's when your ... we're moving in now to an operational matter ... for the bank as opposed to what are actually operational procedures and auditing measures for the firm that's actually before us. Mr. McDonnell is already on record as saying that he ... clearing ... making a clear distinction between what are bank operations and what are auditing operations. So, Senator, I'll...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: On the basis of what, Senator?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Final question Senator.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay. Thank you very much. I want to turn to one matter there, please, before I bring in Deputy O'Donnell and that's in regard to the NAMA-acquired loan portfolios from Bank of Ireland. This is in the core document, page 25 - annual report and financial statement. So, in there when NAMA acquired the loan portfolios from Bank of Ireland, NAMA imposed a haircut of over 43% on the nominal...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Yes, the 43% haircut.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: I'll take you to the acquired loans asset document that's in front of you there.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: If you look at it ... on table 3 on the right-hand top corner of it, there is the Bank of Ireland loan balance transferred, a €9.9, I presume these are billions, consideration paid €5.6 billion, discount 43%.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: I'm asking you were you satisfied with the valuation methodology used by Bank of Ireland in assessing the value of their land and development loan book before it went into the haircut?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: But, can you provide any explanation to the committee this morning as to why the NAMA high cut, rather than NAMA haircut, was so high, Mr. McDonnell?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Okay, so can I just check for the record so Mr. McDonnell, were PwC aware of the fair value of these loans when signing off on the account?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: So, what was the difference between the fair value and the IAS 39 valuation when it all panned out?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Was there a difference?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Yes.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: €2.2. Thank you very much. Deputy Kieran O'Donnell.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: You have to give time to respond because otherwise you'll run out of time for your questions.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: The question's made. Mr. McDonnell and Mr. Murphy, whichever.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Nexus Phase (20 May 2015)

Ciarán Lynch: Sorry, Deputy, now I will have to interject. If you are going to take a couple of minutes asking a question, you at least have to accommodate the same amount of time for a response. Mr. McDonnell, please, without interruption now.

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